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re: Putin’s Invasion Had the Opposite Intended Effect - Russia Now Surrounded by NATO
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:52 am to TigerDog83
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:52 am to TigerDog83
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We should have worked to at least be more neutral to Russia instead of pushing them into the arms of China. That will prove to be a long term geopolitical mistake. They hold a ton of the raw materials that make the world run, instead of a bunch of overvalued Tech products and financials that back the US economy and could collapse at any minute with the currency. They are not nearly as weak as many in the US seem to assume. The world is moving to multi polar spheres of influence and our government class is having a hard time accepting that the era of American uni-polarity dominance is over.
Germany had nice, cheap energy to be an economic powerhouse and we f'ed them over pushing this conflict and blowing up Nord Stream. Putin was perfectly happy supplying that energy to western Europe, but we couldn't allow it.
Also, Mearsheimer absolutely nailed it in 2015 about what was coming.
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This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:58 am
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:54 am to Bunk Moreland
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Germany had nice, cheap energy to be an economic powerhouse and we f'ed them over pushing this conflict and blowing up Nord Stream. Putin was perfectly happy supplying that energy to western Europe, but we couldn't allow it.
Yep. Their manufacturing stats are unbelievably ugly since the US cut their gas supply off. They are in the midst of a deep manufacturing recession that may drag the whole country into depression and people wonder why they can't muster more "support" for Ukraine and Zelensky?
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:59 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:57 am to Bunk Moreland
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Germany had nice, cheap energy to be an economic powerhouse and we f'ed them over pushing this conflict and blowing up Nord Stream. Putin was perfectly happy supplying that energy to western Europe, but we couldn't allow it.
We?
Germany leads the EU and worked hard to get Ukraine to join. They see the value in a European Ukraine. Germany (and the EU by proxy) has a lot of self interest in Ukraine. Why are we pretending like Europe has no opinion or voice in this matter? They were in Ukraine after Yanukovych went Game of Thrones. They were supporting the locals on the ground just like we were.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:58 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:03 am to Bunk Moreland
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Germany had nice, cheap energy to be an economic powerhouse and we f'ed them over pushing this conflict and blowing up Nord Stream. Putin was perfectly happy supplying that energy to western Europe, but we couldn't allow it
There still exists pipelines that could move gas to Germany. Germany refuse to use it.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:03 am
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