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re: If you believe your rights come from God then you are a Christian Nationalist
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:46 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Not true. You can't make a logical argument for morality unless it's objective. You say X is moral. I say X is immoral. If morality is subjective, we are both correct. But for you to say I am wrong about it being immoral, there has to be an objective morality. In that case, you would be making an argument that something is both moral and immoral at the same time. That's not logical. So morality has to be objective.
I was responding to a post that said that rights not given by God would be subjective.
That's no different than rights given by God. It's all subjective, obviously. We don't have some big human rule book.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 11:48 am
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:48 am to StrongOffer
We have the ability (God-given if you believe that way) to come up with whatever set of morals you feel comfortable with.
The laws that govern you come from man.
The laws that govern you come from man.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:12 pm to StrongOffer
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So morality has to be objective.
If you believe its inherent from a higher power then yes. But if you dont then its relative to whatever a society, culture religion etc.. agrees is moral or immoral.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:31 pm to StrongOffer
quote:Call it what you want but I get my morality from the same place the founding fathers got theirs, the Holy Bible. I won't be calling you names. You are free to think of it however you would like. Our laws have been weakened on this matter but that is still telling us what is wrong. Everything else is o.k. I think this all amounts to not being very subjective. ... but I don't care which label is placed on this. objective or subjective labels have no impact on the outcome.
You say X is moral. I say X is immoral. If morality is subjective,
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