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re: Ingram Mid-Season Highlights
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:20 am to saintslsupels
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:20 am to saintslsupels
quote:Why is virtually everyone in our rotation able to get up more 3s than BI? Why is BI the only dude that needs that type of help to get up 3s?
People complaining about BI not taking enough threes over look the fact that we don’t have a true starting point guard. For BI to shoot more threes, he needs someone else to be a playmaker and get him the ball when he’s open. Zion seems to be the only one capable.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:42 am to shel311
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Why is virtually everyone in our rotation able to get up more 3s than BI?
See post above. BI doesn't have anyone that can playmake for him aside from himself or Zion, same for Zion. That's how they're setup. But be for real, a vast majority of the team's 3s, aside from CJ, are spotting up off dimes from BI or Zion. That's why I'm hoping Coach Green plays them more minutes together.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 12:33 pm to shel311
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Why is virtually everyone in our rotation able to get up more 3s than BI? Why is BI the only dude that needs that type of help to get up 3s?
Well it starts with the fact that BI is a terrible three point shooter when it's not catch and shoot. He's not Steph Curry, or even CJ, so stop trying to make him be those guys.
2024
38% C&S 33% Pull ups
2023
42% C&S 33% pull ups
2022
36% C&S 21% pull ups
2021
43% C&S 30% pull ups
2020
42% C&S 28% pull ups
While I think he's improving his pull up 3 game, it's not a shot i want him taking, yet that's the only real way for him to get up more 3's b/c he's on the ball too much.
If you want BI taking more threes, then take the ball out of his hands. The soltion to him taking more 3's isnt' taking more ineffecient pull up 3's.
If the ball is going to be in his hands, then him taking a mid range shot from 10-16 feet is more effecient than him taking a 3.
BI has the lowest % of assisted 2 pointers on the team, basically tied with CJ at 39%. They are having to create their own shots inside the 3 point line. Both of them also have 75% of their 3 pointers assisted on, while everyone else on the team is above 90%.
Zion is at 48% of his 2's assisted on. Jose is at 52%, Dyson at 50%, Herb and JV around 60%.
I think BI, as well as Zion could flourish together if they had a true PG that could set them up better. Instead we are playing with an off ball PG (who's been one of the best 3 point shooters in the league this year), and using BI and Zion as PG's.
I honestly dont' know which way would be more efficient to the duo, a true PG or a legit flame thrower like CJ who is also creating shots for himself.
BI is taking more C&S threes than Anthony Edwards this year. 2.5 compared to 2.1. Edwards is 35% on pull up 3's, and takes 4.5 a game compared to BI's 1.4 per game at 33%. BI's 2 pointers are just as effecient as Edwards pull up 3's, both at 106 rating.
Tatum shoots his pull up 3's at 34%, taking 5.8 per game. Also taking less C&S threes than BI at 2.4 per game.
SO again, unless BI can become a 35% pull up 3 point shooter, there's really no reason for him to take pull up 3's, or more pull up 3's, and him getting to the rim or settling for an easy mid range, key word being easy, is a better shot for him at this time. Take him off the ball more or improve his pull up 3 game. which one is it?
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 9:56 am to shel311
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Why is virtually everyone in our rotation able to get up more 3s than BI? Why is BI the only dude that needs that type of help to get up 3s
Because BI sets up other people for open threes, but nobody sets up BI for open threes. He’s not Steph or Dame, he needs someone to draw a crowd and pass him the ball when he’s open for three. Zion is the only one who can but he’s not a guard, and CJ is somehow third in assists when he should be leading the team. Remember, BI leads the team in assists. He’s essentially our point guard while also our best scoring guard. If we had a legit PG, not a shooting guard playing PG, I’m willing to bet he’d get more threes.
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