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re: Can someone Explain to me how they came up with 5000 per day
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:28 am to Jax-Tiger
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:28 am to Jax-Tiger
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Can someone Explain to me how they came up with 5000 per day
OK. Under the new proposed legislation (which is not part of current law), if 5,000 in a single day appear at border crossings or in encounters at locations other than border crossings, that triggers a complete shutdown of the border.
Such a shut down trigger does not currently exist in US law. Most days we see significantly more than 5,000 people.
In the bipartisan legislation, they considered a 5,000 trigger to be necessary to signal a crisis that would justify the complete shutdown of the US border.
But now republicans don't want any shutdown. There is no shutdown trigger in US law now.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 9:30 am
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:33 am to TBoy
Why is there a trigger number at all? Why can’t all illegal crossings be stopped without a trigger of “encounters”?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 9:58 am to TBoy
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OK. Under the new proposed legislation (which is not part of current law), if 5,000 in a single day appear at border crossings or in encounters at locations other than border crossings, that triggers a complete shutdown of the border.
Yet again, another reason why nobody trusts you. It's not a COMPLETE SHUTDOWN. That is bullshite. The shutdown applied only to people crossing BETWEEN legal check points. Even then, some people are still allowed to come in between legal checkpoints. The normal legal checkpoints stay in business.
In addition, this bill does nothing about the people who cross and aren't taken into custody. We don't know how many illegal aliens cross the border unencountered. We have a rough count of "gotaways". But a lot of people cross the border completely unknown to us, and we pretend like they don't exist. The human/drug trafficking would occur at border crossings where there are no patrols.
Building a wall with sensors would be a GREAT start.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 10:02 am
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:18 am to TBoy
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OK. Under the new proposed legislation (which is not part of current law), if 5,000 in a single day appear at border crossings or in encounters at locations other than border crossings, that triggers a complete shutdown of the border. Such a shut down trigger does not currently exist in US law. Most days we see significantly more than 5,000 people. In the bipartisan legislation, they considered a 5,000 trigger to be necessary to signal a crisis that would justify the complete shutdown of the US border. But now republicans don't want any shutdown. There is no shutdown trigger in US law now.
The problem with setting the number at 5,000 is the cartel coyotes will bring them to the border at a number just under the threshold.
5,000 “closes the border”.
4,999 doesn’t.
The number doesn’t need to be 5,000, 10,000, or 250.
It needs to be zero
Posted on 2/13/24 at 10:23 am to TBoy
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But now republicans don't want any shutdown. There is no shutdown trigger in US law now.
You'd be well-served to stop with the bullshite. Your politics are different than most here so you're easily discounted when you type out something retarded like, "Republicans don't want any shutdown" of the border.
The problem with your position is that there doesn't need to be any sort of trigger to shut the border down. We can simply just shut it down.
An aside - am I correct in remembering your participation in a thread a couple years ago where you acknowledged that illegals were an economic catastrophe for the American underclass?
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:56 pm to TBoy
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OK. Under the new proposed legislation (which is not part of current law), if 5,000 in a single day appear at border crossings or in encounters at locations other than border crossings, that triggers a complete shutdown of the border.
Such a shut down trigger does not currently exist in US law. Most days we see significantly more than 5,000 people.
In the bipartisan legislation, they considered a 5,000 trigger to be necessary to signal a crisis that would justify the complete shutdown of the US border.
But now republicans don't want any shutdown. There is no shutdown trigger in US law now.
I'm not sure a single thing here is true or accurate. Great work.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:33 am to TBoy
quote:if they can completely shut down the border at 5k, why can't they just do it right now? The crossings are ILLEGAL today.
OK. Under the new proposed legislation (which is not part of current law), if 5,000 in a single day appear at border crossings or in encounters at locations other than border crossings, that triggers a complete shutdown of the border
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