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re: Easier program turnaround, LSU or NcNeese St.

Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:39 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28625 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:39 am to
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McMahon has done tremendous job bring the program back from where Wade left it.


Point of clarification: Wade “left” the program as a #6 seed in the NCAA Tournament (would have been 4th appearance in a row) with a like top 10 recruiting class coming in for the next season. The LSU administration left the program in the position McMahon found it in. Whether or not it was necessary to do so will always be a topic of debate.

And your definition of “tremendous” seems a bit odd. I don’t know if I’d call a 6-22 record vs SEC opponents “tremendous”. However, I’m interested to see what superlative is used when McMahon gets to 10 career SEC wins early next season. What’s tremendously better than tremendous?
Posted by PNG Futbol
Member since Aug 2022
482 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:03 am to
McMahon seems to be a good coach, but he is a vanilla personality, IMO. To recruit well and consistently at a school like LSU in men's basketball requires more than what McMahon presents, IMO.

LSU has shown that it doesn't care about men's basketball as much as it does about football or baseball. It is what it is. LSU needs more personality and engagement from its coach to get fan and donor support. This is especially true in the NIL era.

When McMahon gets us into an NIT and 4 consecutive NCAA tournaments while winning the regular season conference championship, he will receive the reverence that Wade has earned from many LSU fans. There is a reason why many LSU fans long for the Wade regime.

The question posed by the OP is moot. Wade did turn LSU around in an era when there was no free transfer rule. Wade did turn around a depleted squad at Chattanooga and at McNeese. Wade didn't have to turn around the VCU team because they were already an A10 power.

McMahon has never turned around a team. Murray St. was already a mid-major power when he took over. LSU is still a work in progress under McMahon. I worry that McMahon's career at LSU will look more like Trent or Johnny than Will. At this point, I will be happy if McMahon can come close to Brady's results.

Time will tell.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48195 posts
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:05 am to
We’re so poorly coached man. From bow to stern it’s just sub par for this level. We don’t rebound even though we’re a big team. We don’t take care of the ball even though we have a bunch of capable ball handlers and most of them are 3/4 year players. We’re totally lost in secondary situations on offense. If the initial screen roll action doesn’t produce a good look we’re completely stuck. We have no situational awareness, always taking bad shots at the worst times, sometimes by the wrong player. We don’t do any of the little or smart things that win games well. It’s just disheartening for this group of kids.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 8:29 am
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