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Is this business a good buy?

Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
517 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:41 pm
The business is a well established fuel, tire, and minor repair shop. It comes with property, building, tanks, equipment, prepaid insurance, cash on hand, etc. It is clearing $130,000 a year with very little hustle. Everything is paid off as this business has been around for 50 plus years. Everything is in good shape. The asking price is right at a million dollars. Thanks.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
44598 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 2:43 pm to
is the owner in the business every day hustling or is it self sufficient? is the owner also getting a salary or is he getting paid the 130k?
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7520 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 3:25 pm to
Would you be managing this place? Does the $130k include any salary paid to the owner?

7.6x earnings for an auto service shop seems high to me

Posted by geauxnc0308
pineywoods of ET
Member since May 2008
547 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 4:10 pm to
I assume the fuel tanks are in ground. When were they last replaced? And max 3X
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
87095 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 5:38 pm to
You should try to value the individual components on your own or with a professional. What’s the business worth? What about inventory? Property/real estate?

Cash on hand obviously shouldn’t get any multiplier, but the rest can be valued to come up with a true price where you can judge the sale price fairly.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 5:38 pm
Posted by faka_ofo_ofa
Salt Lake City
Member since Dec 2023
114 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:49 pm to
There is usually an earnings "multiple" that is the average/standard for every business/business segment for sales pricing. I'd track the multiple down for that type of business. A business broker can probably help you with that. I have no idea what the margins are to arrive and the $130k, so I'm of no help. Is the $130k NOI, EBITDA?

Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37858 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 6:55 pm to
If the building / land is worth 600k or more this might be a decent deal.

Remember you need to pay the debt out of that $130k
Posted by Finch
Member since Jun 2015
3380 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 5:28 am to
If you take out a loan for a million dollars, how much of that 130k is left after you pay your note

You may be paying 1 million dollars for a 50k/year job
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1313 posts
Posted on 1/23/24 at 11:25 am to
quote:

The business is a well established fuel, tire, and minor repair shop. It comes with property, building, tanks, equipment, prepaid insurance, cash on hand, etc. It is clearing $130,000 a year


Others have asked you pertinent questions already. The ask is high based on net. I'll go ahead and ask, but I assume the $130k is net - after taxes too?
I'd also like to know what the gross is yearly. $130k net on $500k would be great, but $130k on $1M, not so much.

quote:

Everything is paid off as this business has been around for 50 plus years. Everything is in good shape.


As others have said, the a majority of the value of the business could be the real estate involved.

Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14998 posts
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:45 pm to
Unless the dirt under the property is worth a ton the answer is no with 80K coming off fuel this is way too expensive and risky. I have m and a background.
Walk away. Better businesses to be in.
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