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re: MBB : Early conference play opinion

Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:41 am to
What we’re seeing from some fans is a drastic drop in expectations which is never good. What is McMahon’s standard exactly? Do we expect him to be as successful as Brown or Wade or even Brady because what it looks like is the expectation is for him to be somewhere between Johnny Jones and Trent johnson. Jones inherited a much worse situation and in year 1 won 19 games and in all but his final year equaled or surpassed that number. He was fired for lack of meeting expectations but now it seems as though a lot of our fans would be overjoyed if coach Mac can even match that. So far in both seasons we’ve underachieved based on the roster but for some reason we’re acting like he’s doing a great job with nothing when that’s the opposite of what’s happening. Celebrating 3-2 just because we were one of the worst 3 P5 teams in the country last season is a perversion of success regardless of if you want to believe in the “dark cloud” theory or not.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35490 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 9:45 am to
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What is McMahon’s standard exactly?
It is to rebuild the team from the crater he found it in and then sustain a winning program.
This post was edited on 1/22/24 at 9:46 am
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9130 posts
Posted on 1/22/24 at 10:53 am to
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Do we expect him to be as successful as Brown or Wade or even Brady


In the near future yes. But McMahon seems to be more of a developer than those guys and needs the core of his team to be upperclassmen that he developed. The key will be if he can develop a few of them into stars and/or get a star or two in the portal or some one and done guys every now and then.

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Jones inherited a much worse situation and in year 1 won 19 games and in all but his final year equaled or surpassed that number.


Jones (and johnson for that matter) coached in a much weaker SEC. The SEC has invested in top coaches so much over the last 5-10 years that it has made the league so much more difficult. Thats not to say we shouldnt want to be better than what we have been these last couple of years, but winning 19 games with a Tuba player at C isn't gonna work in 2024.

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. So far in both seasons we’ve underachieved based on the roster


Last year I would agree but I don't think anyone would say this year they are underachieving. Our roster was never considered very talented and imo, they are slightly over achieving their actual abilities.
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