If you only view it through the lens that suits your argument that Adam didn’t take his last breath immediately after eating the fruit, sure. You, however, omit a bounty of context as to what is actually meant by that phrase. From the moment Adam ate the fruit and onward, sin was in the world and thus at that moment, man was spiritually dead.

In another sense, Adam and Eve were no longer immortal and their bodies began the process of mortality or dying. In both of those senses, Adam and Eve did indeed die at the moment they disobeyed.

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Wow! Look in a mirror and you will find obtuse.

Listen, idk you. Idk why you seem to be in so many of these threads regarding Christianity. Perhaps it makes you feel superior to be “the intellect in the room.” Perhaps you have your own emotional baggage regarding God and faith. Either way, I suspect that you were aware of the points I made above and are merely trolling. It is of interest to me the reason in which you are so bent on commenting on so many Christian based threads. There must be a reason.

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Posted by Squirrelmeister

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Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:48 pm to JiminyCricket

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If you only view it through the lens that suits your argument that Adam didn’t take his last breath immediately after eating the fruit, sure.

It’s very simple. Adam ate the fruit. In that very day he ate the fruit, he did not die. Assuming Yahweh Elohim knew eating the fruit wouldn’t kill Adam that day or at all, then Yahweh lied. Very simple. He could have lied for a noble reason. Regardless, a lie is a lie. To take a story that you believe literally happened, and then reject one part as literal and twist in a metaphorical explanation that isn’t in the text of the inspired word of “God” should be blasphemy.

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From the moment Adam ate the fruit and onward, sin was in the world and thus at that moment, man was spiritually dead.

Are you parroting what other people have told you, or did you find that in Genesis?

It doesn’t say anything about sin as to the reason for expelling Adam and Eve from Eden. It doesn’t say Adam died (spiritually). Here’s what it does say is the reason for expulsion.

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22Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” 23therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. 24He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.

It says in the text the reason God expelled Adam was to prevent him from eating from the tree of life and becoming immortal. I didn’t have to fabricate and lie like many of you apologists do. It’s right there in Genesis. Had he eaten from the tree of life Adam would have lived forever, but he didn’t, and he subsequently died 930 years later.

The other thing about “dying spiritually” that I find so stupid is that for those scribes in Babylon writing the Jewish scriptures, the spirit was physical. What I mean by that is that by having spirit, one would have life. No spirit, no life. The spirit (wind, breath) was necessary for life, and if one lost their spirit/wind/breath they physically died. “Died spiritually” was a very physical real death.

What happened to Jesus (in the myth, not in reality) when he died on the cross?
Matthew 27:50