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re: Judge refuses to dismiss subway chokehold death case against Marine veteran Daniel Penny

Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Being personally responsible means being forced to choose between an experimental medical procedure and being liable for the death of a random person that you never personally harmed?


You must have missed the part where I explained he's creating a straw man by mentally mixing up different threads
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:41 pm to
He’s not.

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This is an extreme example that may not be fully true, but there are hundreds of other similar stories who didn't result in death. In all of these scenarios, dozens and dozens of unvaccinated people ended up creating negative externalities that negatively affected others. If this case is true, they killed this man, effectively.

If you are unvaccinated and you end up taking up hospital resources, you're ultimately denying healthcare to others. This is a zero-sum game at this point and there is no way around that fact.

This completely removes the "personal healthcare decision" argument from the table. If your choices lead to a negative outcome to others, then your choices are well beyond just a personal choice. This is the part of the argument that many unvaccinated people refuse to admit (For obvious reasons. Nobody wants to admit that they're a villain).

Also, this is nothing like the "obesity" counter re: heart disease. Yeah obesity causes all sorts of personal issues that negatively affect that individual's health. But, at this time at least, there isn't a dramatic increase of heart/diabetes cases that are causing hospitals to deny healthcare to others. As soon as that happens, this argument will have some logic, but it's not here, presently.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 5:43 pm to
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You must have missed the part where I explained he's creating a straw man by mentally mixing up different threads


Naw, idiot, he's just creating a "thought exercise".

Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:37 pm to
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You must have missed the part where I explained he's creating a straw man by mentally mixing up different threads

Keep running like a bitch from the direct quotes and links posted in this thread. It’s very entertaining.
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