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re: CEO responds to 'painful' video of employee who went viral after being fired

Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
22094 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 1:43 pm to
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there are a lot of people in this thread that missed some key points

You are missing them….
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she was hired and went through training for two and a half months, then got the month of december to work and then she got laid off.

Wrong. She was given 3 months of “ramp up” time and lead into December, which despite what others are saying, is the most successful time for an OEM in IT. Also, she says she in fact lost all 3 contracts she delivered to clients and has yet to close a deal….
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she was doing poorly they should have put her on a performance improvement plan and documented everything.

PIPs are not the same as they used to be, especially in a higher base salary position like she was in. She signed an offer to work “at will” for a good salary and wasn’t performing.
The company is the one at loss here, they pissed away $40,000 on Brittany and got nothing in return.
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so most likeky they overhired, early numbers for the sales department came in and didnt look great so a small scale RIF of 40/1500 was enacted to reduce sales head count.

Cloudflare continues to post new sales opportunities, including Brittany’s exact position, on many sites. I’m sorry, but at a company like Cloudflare, if you can’t bag a couple renewals and a net new deal in the first 4.5 months…you don’t belong there.
Also, she talks to HR about her metrics, but you nor have seen any of those.

Look, this was handled poorly by Cloudflare. They simply should have let her go saying they no longer believe she can accomplish the goals set for her position and gave her the what is next speech and left it at that.

She handled it even more poorly by posting the recorded call and flaming everyone on LinkedIn. She’s worthless and can’t imagine anyone ever hiring her. My guess, some female manager will come along and feel bad for her and give her a chance, but my money says it won’t end will.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87594 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 5:12 pm to
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Time period between August 25, 2023 and January 10, 2024 (exclusive) equals to:

138 days
... or 19 weeks & 5 days
... or 4 months & 16 days
Between August 25, 2023 and January 10, 2024 (exclusive) there are:

92 working days (736 hours, assuming 8-hour workday),
46 non-working days including:
20 Saturdays,
20 Sundays,
6 federal holidays (US) falling on weekdays

she ended her three month ramp up thanksgiving week
she had roughly two and a half weeks on her own then everything shut down for christmas and new years

she didnt lose three contracts, she said three contracts were out and not renewed last minute, then she was canned. The decision not to rush could have been as mundane as to the availability of her clients legal department over the holidays to review and approve the new renewal. all three contracts could have been renewed the next day, we will never know

the important part is her manager didnt give her any corrections, just positive reinforcement. so perhaps her manager knew she was a lost cause and was just being nice or her manager wasnt in on the decision to release her

also she alluded to comments made by other people on the sales team that were terminated and how their calls were being handled by HR. Seems like there was a vitality curve culling program going on from the Jack Welch School and HR did a really poor job of executing the terminations. Scheduling a block of 15 minute calls to selected members of a specific department looks like a RIF to me.

Advertising job openings means jack shite, you know that
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27991 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 5:21 pm to
Other than the situation in 2008 with lots of layoffs, I find most people if they are honest with you or themselves can see this coming. If Brittany was blowing and going at 100 mph and was making some mistakes, chances are that she is not "separated". I had a guy fresh out of school who ended up being a great employee, but in the beginning he tripped over his own dick on a regular basis.....but each time he tripped it took him longer to fall on his face....until he finally got it right. But he showed up every day, stayed later than most, asked lots of questions and was open to direction.

What I'm saying is that lots of people half-assed it and expected to get a pass. Brittany half-assed it and got what she deserved.
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