re: “A lot big name players will leave this offseason to protect DA’s culture” Nick Underhill

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Trade all the talent for picks, tank next year, fire DA because we go 2-15 or something, have a top pick, cut Carr, start over. Salary cap purgatory next year, but after that we have picks, a young roster, and a new coach in 2025 for the rebuild.
This is what everyone wanted, right? Why not let DA ride the ship down? You going to hire a new coach for this mess?

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Exactly. For some reason people have fooled themselves into thinking a Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik type would want this job.

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Lol ben johnson is considering the Panthers- like their situation is so much better than ours.

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The Panthers are pursuing him. That don't mean he's taking it but Tepper would probably offer the 15 mil he asked for so no matter what that's nice leverage for him.

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For some reason people have fooled themselves into thinking good coaches don’t want a NFL head coaching job.

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The guys with options don't just take any job.

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The fact he stated he’s interested in the job just proves my point

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Again, they're interested in him. That's not the same as him being interested.

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By the way you think next year the HC job will be more attractive? If so why?

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If they actually start the rebuild/tanking this coming season, yes. Because the roster will be younger, the cap will be better, and the pick will be higher.

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Apparently it’s been said a lot of players from the Sean Payton era weren’t bought into DA and a voiced their opinions in the locker room and it’s led to friction. Loomis believes that he can get rid of those players and everybody else will buy in.

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There is absolutely no way to defend Dennis Allen. He was hired for continuity to keep the winning culture we had established. This is an admission that HE FAILED! Why keep him when he failed at why you hired him in the first place?!?!

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This is basically being captain of the Titanic

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I sent someone the following texts yesterday.

Micky Loomis


Dennis Allen


Saints fans


Lutz, Troutman & Lil’Jordan
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DP

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Trade all the talent for picks, tank next year, fire DA because we go 2-15 or something, have a top pick, cut Carr, start over. Salary cap purgatory next year, but after that we have picks, a young roster, and a new coach in 2025 for the rebuild. This is what everyone wanted, right? Why not let DA ride the ship down? You going to hire a new coach for this mess? Let it die and then start over.

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Sounds great if it actually happens. I have my doubts the Saints will do that though. The Saints front office seems motivated to get rid of people defying Allen. I doubt they’re doing that just to tank so they can scapegoat Allen and get rid of him. Is likelier they‘ll use any money they scrape together to get more overpriced aging vets to replace the ones they boot off the team.

This organization is crumbling right in front of us.

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So we’ll be a less talented team,

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Will it though?

The Saints played remarkably better with MT13 out of the line up. Yea players say he's one of the best one the field when he's healthy and they want to have him back next year, but in reality, he's done nothing for this tema in 4... 5 years? Not his attitude is obviously affecting the team.

What I hear is a lot of empty praises for Thomas, He's their team mante so their not going to put him on blast but he hasn't been a real part of this team in a long long time.

Lattimore could be in the same boat thought he's a much more valuable piece to the puzzle, but not irreplaceable if his attitude is effecting the team.


And all you saying the FO is choosing the HC over the players... Well yea... Tell me a business that doesn't do this and I'll show you a failed or failing business. It isn't a matter of right or wrong it's a power play and good leaders put down mutinies. Then good leaders deal with the problem that started it. Human nature and all of nature in fact proves that when subordinates run over the leaders those leaders rarely ever regain any respect and sooner or later another leader will come along and beat down the subordinates continue to rise up out of their lane.

DA is likely not the right answer ar HC but these players challenging him are backing the FO into a corner to stand behind him and ultimately back themselves up and that goes all the way up to Gayle.