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re: Roberts/SCOTUS needs to address this Trump shite right now

Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:19 am to
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You opine Congress would impeach Trump if the DOJ dropped the case, and/or if he pardoned himself. Given the premise of GOP Congressional majorities, how exactly, in your opinion, would impeachment go down?

Already been explained a few times.

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The DEMs will leverage that interference. These prosecutions are pretty heavily supported by the public and there will be enough pressure on moderates to put Trump in danger from impeachment and possibly removal.


The 2026 election season starts a few months after the inauguration. If those prosecutions just go poof, it's going to create the biggest shitstorm Trump may have ever faced. Assuming the GOP has a majority in one of the houses, there will be a LOT of pressure on every moderate GOP member in either chamber with an election in 2026 to come out against this. Either the GOP members can be pressured into the support of removal or the DEMs can try to get the #s to remove him in 2026.

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In a scenario where the electorate determines the POTUS & Congress, and POTUS/Congress in turn determine the AG, the charges, trials, and election are not only not "unrelated concepts," they are inextricably linked.

Again, there are a LOT of GOP voters who will hold their nose and vote for Trump without rallying direct supporting Trump, and they will do so believing he'll beat the criminal cases in court.

And this is also all just a conversation about the 2 federal cases. Trump has 2 other criminal cases in state courts that he can't stop (either via pardon or administratively). If Trump gets convicted on either/both of those, while having a hand in dropping his federal cases, it will make him look like he knew he was guilty of the federal cases and "cheated to win", as Eddie Guerrero would say.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:29 am to
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If those prosecutions just go poof, it's going to create the biggest shitstorm Trump may have ever faced. Assuming the GOP has a majority in one of the houses, there will be a LOT of pressure on every moderate GOP member in either chamber with an election in 2026 to come out against this. Either the GOP members can be pressured into the support of removal or the DEMs can try to get the #s to remove him in 2026.


Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 9:12 am to
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Already been explained a few times.
Your political opinions are neither "explanations," nor effective counters to fact.

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These prosecutions are pretty heavily supported by the public
That is your opinion. IMO, any public "support" is tenuous and based on the nature of a one-sided narrative to this point. As an example of tenuity, polling skews the public very heavily against unfair or disproportionate application of law. Establishing the fact of unfairness will slaughter public acceptance of the DOJ BS.

Again, the Fall process will serve as a referendum as national elections always do. The structure of the POTUS campaign will substantiate an antithetical narrative to that currently being fed to the populace. If not, Trump will not be elected.

If the public holds the perception in November which you claim it does now, Trump will not be electable. Simple as that.
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