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re: Over 25% of Methodist churches abandon denomination as schism grows over LGBTQ+ issues
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:36 am to Champagne
Posted on 12/30/23 at 4:36 am to Champagne
This whole debate among Protestants about whether practicing homosexuals are committing Sin brings the spotlight on the Bible Alone aspect of Protestant theology.
As we know from the Westminster Confession, the Bible is perfectly clear with regard to how one gains Salvation. Our resident Reformed pastors have repeated this extensively.
But this debate about homosexuals seems to undercut this statement in the Westminster Confession. How can one Protestant say that a practicing homosexual is actively and unrepentantly engaging in Sinful behavior and is going to Hell, while another says that the behavior is not Sin at all, and is no impediment to being Saved?
Of course, the usual response to this puzzle is to simply declare, "Well, the side that says it is not Sin is clearly wrong", but, isn't that just circular logic? Sort of like saying, "the Bible is perfectly clear on how to gain Salvation, but, THAT guy's opinion on what it means is perfectly wrong on what's perfectly clear. Are we really going to have 500 years of Protestant theology rest on a foundation of Circular Logic? No, of course not.
So this conundrum remains unsolved. Either the Westminster Confession is false or there's a piece of the puzzle that's not been discussed.
Just thinking out loud here.
As we know from the Westminster Confession, the Bible is perfectly clear with regard to how one gains Salvation. Our resident Reformed pastors have repeated this extensively.
But this debate about homosexuals seems to undercut this statement in the Westminster Confession. How can one Protestant say that a practicing homosexual is actively and unrepentantly engaging in Sinful behavior and is going to Hell, while another says that the behavior is not Sin at all, and is no impediment to being Saved?
Of course, the usual response to this puzzle is to simply declare, "Well, the side that says it is not Sin is clearly wrong", but, isn't that just circular logic? Sort of like saying, "the Bible is perfectly clear on how to gain Salvation, but, THAT guy's opinion on what it means is perfectly wrong on what's perfectly clear. Are we really going to have 500 years of Protestant theology rest on a foundation of Circular Logic? No, of course not.
So this conundrum remains unsolved. Either the Westminster Confession is false or there's a piece of the puzzle that's not been discussed.
Just thinking out loud here.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 4:37 am
Posted on 12/30/23 at 8:46 am to Champagne
quote:The belief that the Bible supports homosexuality is a new thing. The Bible is very clear on the subject and no one has disputed that—neither Christian nor Jew prior to Christ—until the last few decades when these “Christians” abandoned the Bible as their rule for faith and life.
So this conundrum remains unsolved. Either the Westminster Confession is false or there's a piece of the puzzle that's not been discussed.
This isn’t an issue of biblical clarity but of sin.
This post was edited on 12/30/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 12/30/23 at 9:02 am to Champagne
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Just thinking out loud here.
Brave talk given what is happening with the current Pope.
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