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re: Over 25% of Methodist churches abandon denomination as schism grows over LGBTQ+ issues
Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:50 pm to HubbaBubba
Posted on 12/28/23 at 4:50 pm to HubbaBubba
quote:Many reasons.
But, why? If Christ lives within you, why do you require the physical trappings of man to stay close to the Lord God?
We're commanded to not forsake the gathering together.
We are given means of grace in the preaching of the word, prayer, and the sacraments (baptism and the Lord's supper) as helps for us to grow closer in communion with God, and these are given for the benefit of the church.
We are members of one body with many different gifts given for the mutual benefit of each other. We are to be involved in each others' lives to build up others and to be built up by others.
We are commanded to submit to and honor our ruling elders who are accountable for our souls. They can't shepherd us and we can't submit to them and be shepherded by them if we don't belong to a church.
There are many more reasons that could be given, but that's just a taste. The Church was built for our good for and or the public worship of our God. To divorce yourself from the Church is to divorce yourself from the means that God has given as a primary help in our spiritual lives. In short, it's not good for us to be on our own.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:46 pm to FooManChoo
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We are commanded to submit to and honor our ruling elders who are accountable for our souls. They can't shepherd us and we can't submit to them and be shepherded by them if we don't belong to a church.
While I think there are some great churches out there I'm good explaining to God at the end of my days why I made my own choices in a world full of self-interested religions and churches run by sinful, imperfect humans.
I've seen pastors having affairs with their flock.
Priests molesting children.
Priests and pastors stealing from their church.
When we die we don't get to say it wasnt our fault we were just listening to trans pastor Pat who told me this or that was ok. Our actions are our own, good or bad, so I reject wholly the notion that God requires us to submit to the whims of whatever church we attend or likely were born into.
God is within all of us wherever we are, he left his book as a map and the path we choose is our own, not the churches.
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