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Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by TNTigerman
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:12 pm to
If you truly want to learn something, you will take the time to read the ariticle from a web site linked below. It's a very succinct ariticle on the Jews returning to the land promised to them by the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jaob - who are, by the way, the same people today as they were then. Most of the Diaspora Jews settled in the Arab countries, Eastern, Western, and Central Europe, Russia, and that's where most of them came back from.

Also, read further below and you will understand why God has brought them back into the land. Spoiler alert: It's not based on any modern day changes to the Jews' 3000 years of disobedience to God and His statutes.

The Restoration of Israel

God said he would bring them back in "unbelief" as clearly stated in the article multiple times and below:

The Process of Restoration
All the prophets agree that Israel’s last-days restoration would involve a two-phase process. First, there would be a physical return to the Land and then a spiritual return to God. That is, Israel would return to the Land in unbelief for the purpose of coming to belief.

Both Zechariah 1:3 and Malachi 3:7 express this two-step process in very simple terms: “Return to Me and I will return to you.”

Hosea 6:1-3 also speaks of Israel’s return or tshuva (repentance), leading to God’s return to them.

Jeremiah 24:6-7 states: “I will bring them back to this land… Then I will give them a heart to know Me, that I am the Lord; and they shall be My people, and I will be their God, for they shall return to Me with their whole heart.”

In Jeremiah 32 the Lord promises: “Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God; then I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me forever… And I will make an everlasting covenant with them… and I will assuredly plant them in this land, with all My heart, and with all My soul.” (Jeremiah 32:37-42)

And in the clearest picture of this two-phase process of restoration, Ezekiel 36 declares: “For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out of all countries, and bring you into your own land. Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you shall be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you… I will deliver you from all your uncleannesses. I will call for the grain and multiply it, and bring no famine upon you. And I will multiply the fruit of your trees and the increase of your fields, so that you need never again bear the reproach of famine among the nations.” (Ezekiel 36:24-30)

God has not yet "sprinkled clean water" on them. It will be in His time. And it will be for the sake of His Holy Name:

17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.

18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:

19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.

20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the Lord, and are gone forth out of his land.

21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.

22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, thus saith the Lord God; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the Lord, saith the Lord God, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.

30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.

31 Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.

32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord God, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.

33 Thus saith the Lord God; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.

34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.

And for you who still claim that the Jews of the first century were Christ killers: God sent His Son to die for our sins. Jesus was simply following God the Father's wishes. If that weren't the plan, do you think God would have let that happen to His Son? Further, it was prophesied multiple times in the Old Testament that the Messiah would die on a cross for our sins.

Finally, Genesis 12:3:
"And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed.”




Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59505 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:17 pm to
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TNTigerman


Oh good lord. Your religious beliefs would have been anathema to Christians for the vast majority of the past 2000 years.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
2877 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:40 pm to
Thanks for the response I’ll check it out!
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:42 pm to
Genesis 12:3 is referencing Jesus. Not Israel. Just to be clear.

I’m also not interested in your heretical dispensationalism.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1922 posts
Posted on 12/13/23 at 7:42 am to
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In Jeremiah 32 the Lord promises: “Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God


The writer of Jeremiah was talking about the Cyrus of Persia sending the slaves of Babylon (Jews and others) to Judah 2500 years ago. It’s not applicable to present day events.
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