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BI taking over in all phases
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:20 pm
His defense has been much approved. 
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 3:47 am to yaboidarrell
But everyone was just talking about how he doesn't fit here and how we should trade him.
Idiots.
Idiots.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:11 am to bonethug0180
Because this place is full of frickin idiots
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:11 am to bonethug0180
quote:Let's give him $300 mil based on that 1 game and ignore the 5 years of losing, that's what the "smart" people want.
But everyone was just talking about how he doesn't fit here and how we should trade him.
Idiots.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:16 am to shel311
quote:
ignore the 5 years of losing, that's what the "smart" people want.
Yeah let's ignore the fact that we typically win games when B.I. plays since Willie has been head coach.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:18 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:You said that last night.
Yeah let's ignore the fact that we typically win games when B.I. plays since Willie has been head coach.
4 seasons, 1 winning record, barely with 43 wins.
Tell me more about all the winning we do with BI...
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:20 am to shel311
quote:
, 1 winning record, barely with 43 wins.
Ingram has been very injured over the past few seasons. When he plays we win more than we lose.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:23 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Then we should definitely give him $300 mil going into year 10!
How is the an argument FOR Ingram?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:24 am to shel311
The “smart”people don’t blame five years of losing on BI.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:27 am to shel311
quote:
is the an argument FOR Ingram
It's more of an argument against the narrative that Ingram doesn't fit on this team, when we've had a winning record when he plays. His injury history would be the only reason I'd be hesitant to max him, and to act like we're some elite franchise that can afford to let a guy like him leave is crazy.
You can't argue against numbers shel. When he plays we win more than we lose . He has to figure out his health, and stay on the court for 65 plus games. If he can do that and continue to take 3s and playmake a little more he's every bit of a max player.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:28 am to VOR
quote:He's a max player, we don't win.
The “smart”people don’t blame five years of losing on BI.
You're saying he gets zero blame for that?
Wtf is going on right now
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:30 am to shel311
quote:
we don't win
We have a winning record with him this year, last year, and the year before.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:32 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Can you post the Pels record since Ingram joined when he plays?
You can't argue against numbers shel. When he plays we win more than we lose
quote:Inefficient scorer, decent facilitator, does nothing else well. Doesn't sound like $300 mil to me.
If he can do that and continue to take 3s and playmake a little more he's every bit of a max player
And for the record, I've been nothing but complementary of his game last night. Just keep in mind what side is bringing this topic up this morning, it's not me. I'm just replying to other who clearly want to discuss this, I just want to ensure that is pointed out before someone comes with the inevitable "why can't you just enjoy the win" line.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:37 am to shel311
I did correct myself earlier saying the last 3 years (including this year), and thats with zion playing what, 40 games across that tine.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:41 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:39 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:We're the equivalent of a 42 win team the past 3 seasons when BI plays.
We have a winning record with him this year, last year, and the year before.
You're hyping that up as some amazing stat. That's not good. That's a bad record, unless you're good with mediocrity.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:42 am to shel311
You're hyping that up as some amazing stat. That's not good. That's a bad record, unless you're good with mediocrity.
Considering he hasn't had the other max guy available for even 20 games a season over that span its not terrible.
Considering he hasn't had the other max guy available for even 20 games a season over that span its not terrible.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:46 am to whatiknowsofar
There's nothing good about this team's overall performance the last 5 seasons.
There's little good about this team's overall performance the past 3 seasons.
Not trying to be a dick but thinking otherwise is honestly just being happy with mediocrity. We've been a bad team for 5 seasons. At best, we've been mediocre and certainly below average the past 3 seasons. I refuse to be content with that given the talent on this team.
There's little good about this team's overall performance the past 3 seasons.
Not trying to be a dick but thinking otherwise is honestly just being happy with mediocrity. We've been a bad team for 5 seasons. At best, we've been mediocre and certainly below average the past 3 seasons. I refuse to be content with that given the talent on this team.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:48 am to whatiknowsofar
We aren't going to agree, and that's cool. We all agreed that this is the make or break season for Ingram/Zion.
If Ingram and Z can play 65-70 games together, I think the Pels are going to win a lot of basketball games, apparently you dont. Chuck and Kenny said we're the deepest roster in the league, and I don't think that's bullshite.
If Ingram plays 40 games and zion 45 or some shite and we miss out on the playoffs it's over. You won't keep Ingram and no one will complain.
If Ingram and Z can play 65-70 games together, I think the Pels are going to win a lot of basketball games, apparently you dont. Chuck and Kenny said we're the deepest roster in the league, and I don't think that's bullshite.
If Ingram plays 40 games and zion 45 or some shite and we miss out on the playoffs it's over. You won't keep Ingram and no one will complain.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:49 am to shel311
quote:
Not trying to be a dick but thinking otherwise is honestly just being happy with mediocrity. We've been a bad team for 5 seasons. At best, we've been mediocre and certainly below average the past 3 seasons. I refuse to be content with that given the talent on this team.
No shite we shouldn't be happy, but is it because a star player isn't a fit or is it because we just haven't been fricking healthy? Be honest shel, you know there's only one right answer.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:50 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:52 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:It's less about a number of wins and more about being the best version of this team we can be. Much like last December when we played our best ball in 5 seasons, I belive the best version this team can be is without BI and plus the potential assets you can get for BI, be it more shooters or a defensive big or both.
If Ingram and Z can play 65-70 games together, I think the Pels are going to win a lot of basketball games
Again, the best we've seen this team play in the last 5 years was when BI was not playing. Hard to think that's a coincidence.
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