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Federal Appeals Court Knocks Out Maryland’s Handgun Qualification License
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:07 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:07 am
Fastest Growing High School Sport!!
The Fourth Circuit’s opinion is also important because it correctly recognizes that the language in Heller and Bruen concerning “long-standing regulations” is dicta.
Another Big Win For The Right To Protect Yourself!!

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The process to obtain a firearm in Maryland is “a long and winding” one. The Fourth Court explained that “Like with any firearms transfer—whether a purchase from a licensed dealer, gun show, or private person, or even a gift from a family member or friend—you must comply with Maryland’s … registration process, which requires you to fill out an application with certain identifying information and then wait seven days while the state performs a background check. And if you want to carry your handgun, you need to get a separate carry permit too.”
But that’s not all. There is a further prerequisite that must be satisfied to obtain a handgun. Before an applicant can commence the “normal” licensing process, she must obtain a Handgun Qualification License. To do so, an applicant must:
Submit fingerprints to undergo a background investigation;
Take a four-hour long “firearms safety training course”;
Fire at least one live round; and
Wait up to thirty days for approval before you can start the rest of the process.
The Fourth Circuit ruled that this preliminary process for obtaining a handgun was unconstitutional. This is a big win for gun rights, considering that the Fourth Circuit is often extremely inimical towards the right to bear arms. Still, the Court’s opinion is well reasoned and provides an excellent precedent for use in future Second Amendment cases.
The Fourth Circuit explains that under Bruen, we begin with the plain text of the Second Amendment: “the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” Although the plaintiffs challenging the law fell within the definition of “the People,” the Court flagged a potential “wrinkle.” Specifically, the Second Amendment’s text does not expressly mention purchasing or acquiring arms at a moment’s notice.
The Court correctly recognized that the “plain text” of the Second Amendment necessarily protects rights beyond the rights to have and to carry arms. It explained:
[T]the Amendment’s text protects only the right to “keep and bear” arms. But, on its face, the challenged law says nothing about whether Plaintiffs may “keep” or “bear” handguns. It only restricts Plaintiffs’ ability to “purchase, rent, or receive” them. How, then, does the law regulate the right to keep and bear arms?
The answer is not complicated. If you do not already own a handgun, then the only way to “keep” or “bear” one is to get one, either through sale, rental, or gift. And the challenged law cuts off all three avenues—at least, for those who do not comply with its terms.” (internal cites omitted).
In other words, if a person’s ability to acquire firearms is restricted, then that person’s right to keep and bear arms is infringed.
The Fourth Circuit’s opinion is also important because it correctly recognizes that the language in Heller and Bruen concerning “long-standing regulations” is dicta.
Another Big Win For The Right To Protect Yourself!!

This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/29/23 at 10:42 am to Timeoday
“Shall not be infringed”
Pretty simple to me.
Pretty simple to me.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 11:13 am to Timeoday
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the Court flagged a potential “wrinkle.” Specifically, the Second Amendment’s text does not expressly mention purchasing or acquiring arms at a moment’s notice.
They wrote it as plainly as possible. Waiting for any length of time is an infringement.
I guess if I could ever go back in time I would have them write it a little differently.
Instead of:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I would ask that they say:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. These rights include any and all types of firearms, ammunition, firearm modifications and enhancements. The government will make no law to require anything or prohibit anything regarding firearms. This amendment is written to constrain the government from EVER reducing\removing a citizens right to a firearm.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 1:59 pm to alphaandomega
This current SCOTUS is definitely changing the trajectory of our right to bear arms and this is a very good thing for the country.
This post was edited on 11/29/23 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:27 pm to Timeoday
Did the state ever try to reargue after the initial ruling? I assume this was the final injunction that seals the deal after the initial ruling?
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:29 pm to Timeoday
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In other words, if a person’s ability to acquire firearms is restricted, then that person’s right to keep and bear arms is infringed
duh doy. now do the NFA.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 2:35 pm to alphaandomega
I understand your point, but to the Founders credit, they were pretty on point with their wording. For all the potential quick sand and pot holes they could see coming in the future, the one thing they obviously didn't anticipate were modern day Democrats and their propensity for word salad word games.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 3:55 pm to alphaandomega
quote:I think Kamala tried to explain how you do that.
if I could ever go back in time
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:12 pm to Kracka
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Did the state ever try to reargue after the initial ruling? I assume this was the final injunction that seals the deal after the initial ruling?
There is discussion regarding an en banc hearing but the final decision has not occurred.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 4:58 pm to Timeoday
This thread is outdated already in that this decision came out last week BUT Maryland police have said they will NOT change anything in the process of obtaining a license UNTIL THE COURT ISSUES A MANDATE.
The rabidly-blue MD governor and AG are still considering whether to appeal the decision; they have 14 days to do so from the day the decision was handed down.
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The rabidly-blue MD governor and AG are still considering whether to appeal the decision; they have 14 days to do so from the day the decision was handed down.
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Posted on 11/29/23 at 5:08 pm to conservativewifeymom
Yep, the liberals will wait until December 21 but this SCOTUS will ultimately disband any law or regulation that "infringes" upon the inalienable right to protect yourself.
Posted on 11/29/23 at 5:12 pm to TexSolo
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didn't anticipate were modern day Democrats and their propensity for word salad word games
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The founders did not anticipate the bastardization of the language
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