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Daniel Defense/John Lovell introduce the WPSM4A1…… for $3000
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:11 pm
Twitter Video
https://danieldefense.com/wpsm4a1?utm_campaign=SS&utm_content=WPSM4A1&utm_medium=Referral&utm_source=WPS
John is getting criticized for the price on Twitter. He response, “Sling, optics, optic mount, rail covers…. It all adds up.”
We all know we’d be paying for that WPS logo on the side.
It does have a Radian safety and CH, but the optic is a cheap Holosun red dot.
https://danieldefense.com/wpsm4a1?utm_campaign=SS&utm_content=WPSM4A1&utm_medium=Referral&utm_source=WPS
John is getting criticized for the price on Twitter. He response, “Sling, optics, optic mount, rail covers…. It all adds up.”
We all know we’d be paying for that WPS logo on the side.
It does have a Radian safety and CH, but the optic is a cheap Holosun red dot.
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 1:13 pm
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:11 pm to finchmeister08
Sweet rifle. People always find something to complain about. The people complaining are no doubt not the target audience for this rifle.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 5:35 pm to finchmeister08
As someone who sees a rifle as a tool, I wish someone would explain the draw of a $3k AR rifle.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:22 pm to finchmeister08
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John is getting criticized for the price on Twitter. He response, “Sling, optics, optic mount, rail covers…. It all adds up.”
We all know we’d be paying for that WPS logo on the side.
What am I missing here? That rifle with the upgrades it has is easily over $3,000, and probably over $3,500.
Special editions like this aren't my jam, but this isn't exactly a ripoff.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:39 am to finchmeister08
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It does have a Radian safety and CH, but the optic is a cheap Holosun red dot.
I also don't get rifles like that or brands like Radian in general; it was a tool for too long to consider it anything else. Depending on the use I want a good barrel, BCG and trigger & optic, the rest is mainly fluff.
They don't offend me or anything, and I have plenty of things that are "nicer" than they need to be so I get why some folks got that route. But putting a Holosun on that is just weird and goes squarely against the whole boutique mindset.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:45 am to finchmeister08
Lol Lovell is a shill. For $3k you could get a complete BCM rifle ($1,500), an Aimpoint T2 on a Scalarworks mount ($879) and have a little under $700 to spend on mags and ammo. That gives you a better rifle and optic.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 8:46 am to Elblancodiablo
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I wish someone would explain the draw of a $3k AR rifle.
Knights is basically the only complete AR pushing $3k that actually justifies the price.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:36 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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What am I missing here? That rifle with the upgrades it has is easily over $3,000, and probably over $3,500.
You're not missing anything. The upgrades in that gun are $$$$. Some people just love to complain.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:41 am to Damone
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Knights is basically the only complete AR pushing $3k that actually justifies the price.
How?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:14 am to Elblancodiablo
Proprietary gas system and bolt carrier group, insane quality control, maintains value in resale market
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:47 am to Damone
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Proprietary gas system and bolt carrier group
So it's not mil-spec?
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insane quality control,
Better than mil-spec?
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maintains value in resale market
I don't sell rifles
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:14 am to Elblancodiablo
Ok, who is forcing you to buy a Knights gun?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:49 am to finchmeister08
He’s getting so much crap he had to put the parts list together for everyone.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:43 pm to Damone
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Ok, who is forcing you to buy a Knights gun?
My question had nothing to do with knights.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:42 pm to Elblancodiablo
This seems real simple to me. If you don’t think it’s worth it then don’t buy it.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:49 pm to BayouBaw84
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Sweet rifle. People always find something to complain about. The people complaining are no doubt not the target audience for this rifle.
Yep it’s pretty simple. Don’t buy it if you don’t want to spend the money on it. I spent $2500 including optic on my last build. It’s not hard to do.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:59 am to PT24-7
Once again, not the question.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:21 am to Elblancodiablo
quote:You replied “how” to the man after the man said Knights makes the only rifle he thinks is worth the extra money. Probably pretty easy for him to think you were asking him specifically about the KAC rifle.
My question had nothing to do with knights.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:36 am to Elblancodiablo
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As someone who sees a rifle as a tool, I wish someone would explain the draw of a $3k AR rifle.
I’m guessing you don’t see the draw in a custom bolt action rifle, a finely machined shotgun, or a custom 1911 either.
ETA: if you think a milspec anything is the cream of the crop, I pretty well have my answer.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:03 am to bbvdd
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I’m guessing you don’t see the draw in a custom bolt action rifle.
Maybe if you want pretty, but with modern tech, production rifles are just as accurate as custom.
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a finely machined shotgun
If you want pretty, sure. Benelli is still probably more reliable.
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a custom 1911 either
Lots of pistols out there more reliable than any 1911
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