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re: The ***OFFICIAL*** 13th Annual JFK Assassination Conspiracy Thread - 60th Anniv Special!
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:39 pm to JackDempsey
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:39 pm to JackDempsey
How many covid boosters did you get?
2
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:48 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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Sixty years after JFK's death, a book by former Secret Service agent Paul Landis raises questions about the bullets fired in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.
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at this point in his new book, "The Final Witness," that Landis makes a new and stunning claim.
As he helped Mrs. Kennedy out of the car at Parkland Hospital, Landis wrote of a bullet he found in near perfect condition on the back seat. He says he pocketed it, not wanting vital evidence to fall into the wrong hands.
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Six decades later, Landis' bullet story is far different from the official account of the assassination.
We asked Landis why he didn't say something earlier about the bullet to the Warren Commission. "I thought I'd be asked to testify, but I never was," he responded.
Members of the Warren Commission investigating the assassination said Landis gave two written statements. Neither mentioned having found a bullet. Instead, investigators concluded one shooter fired all three shots.
Sixty years later, the theory does not match what Landis now says he found in the president's limousine.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 7:53 pm to Kafka
BBC
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Don DeLillo's 1988 novel Libra placed Oswald at the centre of a CIA conspiracy. DeLillo spent three years researching the book and told The New York Times: ''I don't know any more than you do what happened in Dealey Plaza that day. I purposely chose the most obvious possibility – that the assassination was engineered by anti-Castro elements – simply as a way of being faithful to what we know of history. Will we ever know the truth? I don't know. But if someday evidence of a conspiracy does emerge, I expect it will be much more interesting and fantastic than the novel.''
Posted on 11/22/23 at 8:13 pm to Kafka
This TV Guide close-up promoting JFK's live appearance on an awards show ran in the issue of Dec 4, 1963; after the assassination it could not be pulled in time.
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:12 pm to Kafka
Hadnt Oswald attempted an assasination of some Texas political figure earlier that year, tried to kill him from a snipers nest outside the guy’s house or something and he missed? Doesn’t that kind of show some plausibility that LHO would attempt such a thing on JFK too?
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:42 pm to Kafka
If someone shot from the grassy knoll they missed
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:48 pm to Kige Ramsey
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Kige Ramsey
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If someone shot from the grassy knoll they missed
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:49 pm to Kafka
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:55 pm to soccerfüt
Rocco shooting Roth in GF II is based on Ruby /Oswald
Vito shooting Don Fanucci is based on JFK (he tears opens his shirt)
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:40 am to Kafka
I guess we've run out of steam for this year. We seemed to get fewer Posner-quoting defenders of the Warren Report this time out. I'm sure that is very significant.
As the Brooklyn Dodgers liked to say, wait til next year, & TYFYS.
As the Brooklyn Dodgers liked to say, wait til next year, & TYFYS.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:37 am to tgrbaitn08
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He scored less than 200 when he left the marines. He just above barely being a sharpshooter which was the bottom of the totem pole
I think the whole thing was sketchy but it was not a difficult shot at 90 yards. Fairly impressive to reload and accurately shoot a bolt action that fast but still easy shots
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:11 am to Wishnitwas1998
There is a YouTube video where the shots were recreated by CBS, several shooters have accomplished what Oswald did, and even much quicker than 8 seconds.
Less than 90 yards is not far at all for a rifle, if you think it is far you either haven't done much shooting or you are terrible at it.
Less than 90 yards is not far at all for a rifle, if you think it is far you either haven't done much shooting or you are terrible at it.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:33 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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How many covid boosters did you get?
None. But I have read probably 30 books over the last nearly 50 years about the assassination. How many have you read? Or do you just keep spouting the Oswald didn't do it line without ever really looking into it? Following the internet sheep, Oswald could never fire that quickly, he couldn't fire that accurately, he didn't kill Tippit, etc. The photos Marina took are fake, lol. Even his own brother Robert believed Lee did it.
Read the Warren Report and Reclaiming History by Bugliosi along with whatever conspiracy books you would like then come to a logical, informed conclusion.
Oswald absolutely fired the shots that day. Was there a conspiracy? It is possible, after all it would only take one more person involved to make it one. Sylvia Odio's story is very interesting.
People that don't believe Oswald fired the shots that day but instead believe a secret service agent in a follow up car killed Kennedy, or a mafia/cia sniper in a storm drain killed Kennedy, or a shooter on the small grassy knoll shot Kennedy while standing in the midst of a bunch of people (and none of them saw this gunman)...it goes to show you how ill informed people are. They don't look into the facts of the case and all they read are conspiracy books, which either outright lie about facts of the case or ignore facts that don't fit their narrative.
And then of course there is the Oliver Stone movie JFK. Good entertainment but you would have to be a fool to believe half of the nonsense in that movie. Clay Shaw, lmao.
Flame away, and watch JFK again so you can get the real facts from Oliver Stone.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 10:37 am to Kafka
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I guess we've run out of steam for this year.
That’s because I made it clear all the shots came from behind on page 3.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:32 am to JackDempsey
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But I have read probably 30 books over the last nearly 50 years about the assassination
You are not the only person to have read books. Why do you think there are so many books if its so simple?
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The photos Marina took are fake, lol.
They are believed by many experts to be faked. Why do you just laugh that off?
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Read the Warren Report and Reclaiming History by Bugliosi
The Warren Report is dog shite. If you dont realize that, just give up and go home and do what the government tells you.
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it goes to show you how ill informed people are. They don't look into the facts of the case and all they read are conspiracy books, which either outright lie about facts of the case or ignore facts that don't fit their narrative.
What do you think the Warren Report is?
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Flame away, and watch JFK again so you can get the real facts from Oliver Stone
Who is saying Oliver Stone has it all figured out? I havent seen anybody saying that.
All i see is you saying you know it all because you read the Warren Report.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:33 am to The Boat
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That’s because I made it clear all the shots came from behind on page 3.
What do you say about the Parkland doctors and nurses who all say there was an exit wound in the back right of JFKs head?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:42 am to WinnaSez
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He did not speed up after the first shot, waited until after the second shot. I remember reading that he said he couldn’t change speed until given an order from the guy riding next to him. So, why did that guy not let him speed out of harm’s way?
How much time was even between the two shots? I don't recall it being much. Given the time it happened it wouldn't surprise me if the driver hadn't realized what happened until the 2nd shot
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
So the Warren report is wrong about Oswald buying the rifle, bringing the rifle to the Depository and shooting JFK from the Depository?
Not one stranger was seen that day in the Depository by any of the employees.
The reason there are so many conspiracy books is because of Oswald's defection to Russia, the fact an upset, deranged Ruby (he loved the President and wanted to spare Jackie from a trial for Oswald) killed Oswald before there was a trial and the fact that many people cannot accept the fact that a lone gunman could possibly kill the most powerful man on the planet.
The only people who think the photos of Oswald with the rifle and his revolver are fake are either loony birds or flat out misinformed. Marina had the photo(s) in her shoe when she went to see Lee at the police station. She later burned one or two copies but there were more and the original negatives were also found. She told investigators she took the pictures. This is a prime example of the problems created by the conspiracy crowd. Even though Marina admitted taking the pictures, before the Warren Commission and the later House Assassinations Committee, and the fact they were found after the assassination....some people refuse to believe it.
A lot of people are influenced by movies and internet message boards, it's easier than reading books.
Not one stranger was seen that day in the Depository by any of the employees.
The reason there are so many conspiracy books is because of Oswald's defection to Russia, the fact an upset, deranged Ruby (he loved the President and wanted to spare Jackie from a trial for Oswald) killed Oswald before there was a trial and the fact that many people cannot accept the fact that a lone gunman could possibly kill the most powerful man on the planet.
The only people who think the photos of Oswald with the rifle and his revolver are fake are either loony birds or flat out misinformed. Marina had the photo(s) in her shoe when she went to see Lee at the police station. She later burned one or two copies but there were more and the original negatives were also found. She told investigators she took the pictures. This is a prime example of the problems created by the conspiracy crowd. Even though Marina admitted taking the pictures, before the Warren Commission and the later House Assassinations Committee, and the fact they were found after the assassination....some people refuse to believe it.
A lot of people are influenced by movies and internet message boards, it's easier than reading books.
Posted on 11/23/23 at 12:46 pm to blueboy
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This right here is the key. Rubenstein killing Oswald makes no sense in the context of him simply being super 'patriotic' and mad at Oswald.
Isn’t part of the mystery that Jack Ruby was an informant for Richard Nixon in Chicago?
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:06 pm to JackDempsey
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the fact an upset, deranged Ruby (he loved the President and wanted to spare Jackie from a trial for Oswald) killed Oswald before there was a trial
The word gullible is written on your ceiling.
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