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Another weed ID please!

Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:23 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/17/23 at 7:23 am
This junk popped up in clumps about 4-6 weeks ago. Winter weed?
Bulb??

I did not do pre emergent in the back yard due to having a young stand of Bermuda and in an effort to grow rye.

It’s difficult to pull because it just breaks off at ground level.





This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 7:24 am
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16341 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:29 am to
Doveweed?
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22054 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I did not do pre emergent in the back yard due to having a young stand of Bermuda and in an effort to grow rye.

I can't comment on weed ID, but I've heard NOT to ever do rye grass with Bermuda, and especially young Bermuda. I'll let ronk / Craw chime in on that too because I would like to confirm if there's any validity to that.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:10 am to
quote:

but I've heard NOT to ever do rye grass with Bermuda, and especially young Bermuda.


This is certainly true, but I did not overseed.
half the lawn was bermuda and weeds and the other (shadier) half was bare dirt, weeds, and a little St. Aug.

So I only seeded about 30% of the backyard. There's just one place where the rye and the bermuda touch.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Doveweed?

It looks similar, but I don't think it is.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5692 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:40 am to
I sent the photos to Dr. Ron Strahan with the LSU AgCenter, and though he’s not totally sure based on the photos, not enough distinguishing characteristics, he’s leaning towards Goosegrass based primarily on the last photo, probably the white basal stem. If you have any that might have seedheads post a photo of it.

I’ve had goosegrass in my lawn in years past, pre-emergent does an excellent job in controlling it, but it didn’t look quite like yours, mine growing more prostrate, but it does have characteristic white stems at the soil line. Favors compacted soils.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 11:58 am to
I really appreciate you doing that, but I'm totally with you in the sense that all of my goosegrass is totally prostrate and pulls much differently than whatever is pictured.

My goosegrass is strong and can take a hard yank and still come up roots and all.

The pictured weed is not like that at all.

Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7540 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:04 pm to
It almost has a Johnson grass looking blade but that isn't it. I'm not going to go against Dr Strahan but I would not have guessed goosegrass.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 1:52 pm to
This is goose grass (800% sure):



And this is a smaller clump of goose grass next to the original weed posted:


Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:02 pm to
Here’s perhaps a better example for distinguishing between the two.



Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47247 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 2:40 pm to
wavy leaf soap plant
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7540 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 3:53 pm to
That’s only on the west coast.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5692 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

You are replying to the following post:Posted byMessagebayoubengals88Another weed ID please! by bayoubengals88Here’s perhaps a better example for distinguishing between the two.

Yeah, those other photos are definitely goosegrass - so the weed you’re asking about is something else. Dr. Strahan’s predecessor Dr. Dearl Sanders taught me how to ID goosegrass. Use of Dimension and Prodiamine pretty much eliminated it from my lawn.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7540 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 4:33 pm to
It is goosegrass. Seedhead gives it away. Still does not look like it.
This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 5:47 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

It is goosegrass. Seedhead gives it away. Still does not look like it.
What you see there is me taking what I know is goose grass and picturing it next to the unknown weed.

That’s the picture of the two weeds on top the garbage can.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23503 posts
Posted on 11/17/23 at 6:00 pm to
More of the unknown:

It doesn’t have that knotted root in the middle that holds it all together (like goose grass).
It appears to till from singular white tubes.



This post was edited on 11/17/23 at 6:03 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7540 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:16 pm to
Haha, well there ya go.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7540 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 12:21 pm to
Let the unknown weed go to seed and let’s try to id it
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18304 posts
Posted on 11/18/23 at 11:21 pm to
I think that might be some type of clumping fescue, I have some crap like that in parts of my yard
This post was edited on 11/18/23 at 11:22 pm
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