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re: The GLP-1 Protocol
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:21 am to BawtHouse
Posted on 3/13/24 at 8:21 am to BawtHouse
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Obesity is a disease.
99% of cases no it isnt. not from a physical standpoint. unless you have a metabolic disorder its almost 100% from over eating. its a simple thermo calculations. we have dozen and dozens of meta analysis of hundreds of studies proving this
we have seen that when we put people on 8-10k steps and reduce caloric intake, we lose weight. why do people gain it in the first place...99% of the time its life style
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If your body doesn’t naturally produce enough GLP-1, it doesn’t.
this is a rare condition, stop acting like everyone fat has it. gtfo with that shite or cite your study showing lack of glp-1 release after a meal is prevalent
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Your assumption is that losing enough weight makes the disease go away, and that is a fundamental flaw in your proposed protocol. It is a disease that requires perpetual treatment(medical and/or surgical in combination with healthy lifestyle implementation)
no it is not. its lifestyle
can i ask what your back ground is?
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). The assumption you are making is that most people possess extraordinary will power. Enough will power to overcome the main symptom of the disease and change one’s appearance and health projections. For those that are able(very very small %, great for them). Diet and exercise are unquestionable part of any good doctor’s recommendation, but that is no different than any good doctor talking to any patient about being healthy.
in most cases its not an issue of will power, its an issue with lifestyle. you can do 80/20 even 70/30 and if you walk 10k steps per day and lift progressively 2x per week the chance of rebound is small
and for the record i am for the use of the medicine but it should be used a minimum effective doses not the bullshite the doctors are pushing
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Once wider acceptance occurs that obesity is a chronic disease that requires perpetual treatment, the gen pop’s thinking and stigma around it will start to change. We must move away from the fat shaming culture(I am aware this board is full of pots calling the kettle black) and to a place of understanding and acceptance of medical facts and data.
wider acceptance...frick you and frick your acceptance. that is bullshite. its a choice of lifestyles. you keep talking about will power...ITS A frickING CHOCICE!!!
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If a person is capable of getting off any medicine that treats any chronic illness with a net positive that is weighed out between new/reduced risks of being off the medicine vs new/reduced risks of being on the medicine. That would be advisable for anyone, regardless of medicine and disease.
yet the studies show that with lifestyle interventions the rebound effect after getting off is minimal and usually less than 20% of weight lost overall.
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The foundational assumption is what I am addressing.
we will never ever ever ever agree on this unless you can show me studies that glp1 natural release is missing in those that are obese and that even when they keep calories below 2k and NEAT at 10k steps...they still dont lose weight. show me those studies(they dont exist) and you will have my buy in
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The treatment of obesity with a will power based approach is simply lacking in understanding of the disease. I’m sorry.
anything but
again cite your credentials and cite your studies
and FTR i wrote this protocol for the people of this board who do not want to be on the medicine forever and for those using it for aesthetic purposes only like bodybuilders
if i had to do it over again i would actually tell people to not get the name brand, get the bulk and reconstitute yourself, start with half dose and always split dosing across 2 shots per week due to the 5 day half life of glp1's
have you used the protocol? have you tried it on patients or those you are advising? if not...you are talking out your arse and even if you are a doctor i can not respect your opinion at all
either bring the studies to prove me wrong or frick off. I cant stand the whole oh poor me of the fat asses that eat way too much, have no time for exercise yet can tell you about every latest tv show.
back to our regularly scheduled program
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:21 pm to lsu777
I've heard some people say that if obesity is a disease it's a disease of lack of muscle
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:35 pm to lsu777
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99% of cases no it isnt.
Making up statistics isn’t helping your cause.
Suffice it to say I am amply qualified to speak on this subject matter.
Are you trying to sell this protocol? That would make A LOT of sense if you are. A lot.
Not going to continue in a back and forth. Everyone should invest a little time in the actual research, instead of taking anyone’s word for it. The science is there and clearly supports what I have presented in this thread. Here are a few to get everyone started.
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