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re: Is the Koran or Quran taken out of context ?

Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:02 pm to
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It's death to all infidels isn't it?

They are not fans of Christians either you know...



correct

but we're hearing death to the jews

why are the Jews hated, I just don't get it
Several things, in context.

1) to the ultra-devout, there's a mandate to cleanse and purify the world. This means removing non-believers.
They will give a pagan the option of converting, but the Jews (and Christians) have had their chance. They consider the Old Testament correct, and the teachings of Jesus as a prophet. But those faiths do not consider Mohammed to be The Prophet, so... they've already rejected what, in the eyes of Islam, is the continued flow of the faith. In other words, they have turned away from the chosen path, and must be purged.

2) Islam focuses on holy territory. Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2, and stuck right in the middle of the Holy Land. To them, that's an abomination not to be tolerated.

3) to the more secular, that second point still rings true- especially to those people displaced when Israel was created. They can be completely atheist, and still harbor hatred to those they consider usurpers of their homeland.
It just gets easier to commit atrocities when your religion encourages, DEMANDS that you remove the Jews from that land.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/11/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Israel was created by the Europeans after WW2,


Israel did not exist in the Levant before WWII?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:36 pm to
The Islamic and Muslim Holy Land did not include Jerusalem until the Persians took it over. It is not their birthright or any such thing.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/12/23 at 12:38 pm to
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1) to the ultra-devout, there's a mandate to cleanse and purify the world. This means removing non-believers.


This is accurate.

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They will give a pagan the option of converting


By the sword only.

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the Jews (and Christians) have had their chance. They consider the Old Testament correct, and the teachings of Jesus as a prophet. But those faiths do not consider Mohammed to be The Prophet, so... they've already rejected what, in the eyes of Islam, is the continued flow of the faith. In other words, they have turned away from the chosen path, and must be purged.


This is wholly incorrect.
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