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Gandalf was sent back by either Eru (who is basically God) or the Valar to finish his task. That tells me they didn't have to send him back. So I'm sure when Saruman died either Eru or the Valar had the option of what to do with him just like they did Gandalf.

If true, why did they not just get rid of Sauron? I know nothing about the lore of Lord of the Rings other than what the movies portrayed.

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Posted by FreddieMac

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Posted on 9/19/23 at 11:09 am to boxcarbarney

He is dead, because can choose what to do with the angles. He appealed to the West at death and was rejected.

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Posted by iwyLSUiwy

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Posted on 9/19/23 at 11:39 am to boxcarbarney

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If true, why did they not just get rid of Sauron? I know nothing about the lore of Lord of the Rings other than what the movies portrayed.

It's hard to read The Silmarillion and not see Biblical correlations. I think it's like God giving men free will to make their own decisions, not predestination. He's not micro managing but does provide blessing. Same thing happens in real life, people as why is God letting all these bad things happen. Whether someone believes that is the case in life or not is kind of irrelevant because that was Tolkiens belief. So Eru isn't a micro manager and let's free will take place.

I would say similiar to God providing blessing to help his will take place/fulfill prophecy, Eru did the same thing. Gandalf at one point told Frodo:

"Surely you don’t disbelieve the prophecies, because you had a hand in bringing them about yourself? You don’t really suppose, do you, that all your adventures and escapes were managed by mere luck, just for your sole benefit? You are a very fine person, Mr. Baggins, and I am very fond of you; but you are only quite a little fellow in a wide world after all"

I had to google that quote, I'm not that big of a nerd