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re: Alabama AG says he has the right to prosecute those who facilitate out-of-state abortions
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:29 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:29 pm to RollTide1987
I'm not a judge, but that sounds like a ridiculous over reach to me.
So if prostitution is legal in Nevada and I "conspire" to travel to Nevada from Alabama to hire a hooker, am I guilty of soliciting a prostitute in Alabama?
That's absurd.
I am as anti-abortion as anyone you'll know, but this is beyond dumb. and as one poster already posted, it shoots the anti-abortion effort squarely in the foot.
So if prostitution is legal in Nevada and I "conspire" to travel to Nevada from Alabama to hire a hooker, am I guilty of soliciting a prostitute in Alabama?
That's absurd.
I am as anti-abortion as anyone you'll know, but this is beyond dumb. and as one poster already posted, it shoots the anti-abortion effort squarely in the foot.
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:30 pm to Chancellor
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You can’t kill babies in Alabama
We know. No one is conspiring to kill babies in Alabama.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:32 pm to AggieHank86
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He issued an AG advisory that it would be legal and appropriate to prosecute anyone who assists an pregnant woman with interstate travel for an abortion.
Which tells me he has no intention of doing this, as he knows he can't, and is just grandstanding.
Hell, why not? Look at Ramaswampy...he gets it too. Bray loud enough about the right buzz words and a certain group just falls in line behind you.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:32 pm to boosiebadazz
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No one is conspiring to kill babies in Alabama.
I know. They’re conspiring in Alabama to murder them elsewhere.
And that’s illegal.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:32 pm to Chancellor
Remember when they claimed that abortion should be a state issue?
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:35 pm to Chancellor
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They’re conspiring in Alabama to murder them elsewhere.
And that’s illegal.
No they aren't. Murder is a legal term. Even in states in which abortion is illegal after a certain time period you still are not charged with murder if you break that law.
Again, I'll ask you the same question I asked upthread. If you travel from Alabama to Nevada for the purpose of soliciting a prostitute in an area of Nevada in which prostitution in legal, are you guilty of solicitation in Alabama?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:35 pm to AggieHank86
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Remember when they claimed that abortion should be a state issue?
Excellent observation.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:39 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:No, but that is not the AG Advisory.
I'll ask you the same question I asked upthread. If you travel from Alabama to Nevada for the purpose of soliciting a prostitute in an area of Nevada in which prostitution in legal, are you guilty of solicitation in Alabama?
The AG is saying that the person who agrees in Alabama to DRIVE you to the airport to fly to Colorado is guilty of CONSPIRACY to purchase and/or possess marijuana, assuming that he knows he is helping you get to Colorado to participate in that sort of debauchery.
The interesting question (legally) is whether it is even theoretically POSSIBLE to "conspire" to commit an act which is legal in the situs where it will be committed. I would love to read the Advisory. I suspect that it is long on hyperbole and short on legal reasoning and/or authority.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:42 pm to RollTide1987
Conservacucks just can’t let abortion go
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:42 pm to Chancellor
But it’s not illegal in whatever state they want to travel to.
Therein lies the rub.
Therein lies the rub.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:43 pm to wackatimesthree
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No they aren't. Murder is a legal term. Even in states in which abortion is illegal after a certain time period you still are not charged with murder if you break that law.
Semantics.
Murder is not a mere legal term. Murder is the unjust killing of a life. Killing a defenseless child in utero for no reason other than convenience (or really for any reason except to spare the life of the mother) is murder.
But, let’s get back to your “legal” reasoning. In every state - even those in which the murder of children in utero is legal- if you a murder a pregnant woman, you are also charged with the murder of her unborn child.
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If you travel from Alabama to Nevada for the purpose of soliciting a prostitute in an area of Nevada in which prostitution in legal, are you guilty of solicitation in Alabama?
Nope.
And if you travel from Alabama to another state to murder a child, you are not guilty of murdering a child in Alabama.
However, if you conspire in Alabama to commit murder in another state, you are guilty of conspiring to commit murder in Alabama. Even Pretend Counsel Hank knows this one.
You’re welcome. It’s really easy.
It’s tough that you’ll have to wear a condom when you go home with that fat chick from the bar.
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:45 pm to boosiebadazz
Why don’t Conservacucks respect states rights?
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:47 pm to AggieHank86
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Are you babbling about SB-107? If so, that is not remotely what it does.
I know I'm about to open a can of worms about how this won't be used to hold a child from his parents yadda yadda yadda but everyone knows CA will do so. It's not appropriate that a TX mother can take her child to another state to find sanctuary to do damaging medical treatments on a child when the father is against it. For goodness sake a parent take a child on an international vacation with good normal intention without the other parents permission.
Let's not play this game where you try to argue that some judge wouldnt prevent parents from getting their child who has run away or maybe even taken there by a non-legal guardian for these treatments. We all know that it's possible one day that this evil will be used to "kidnap" a confused child that ran away. No matter how much "lawyer speak" people try to sugar coat it, this shite is going to be used for this level of evil one day and a parent should be justified to do what ever it takes to get their child from the evil hands of whomever they put the child "in care" of. There are plenty of examples of trans support groups taking kids "under their wings" and parents are having their rights taken away because they don't "support" their childs sexual destruction.
reuters.com/article/factcheck-explainer-california-transgend
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When minors are in the state for gender-affirming care they cannot receive elsewhere, the bill says that the situation falls into an existing category of “emergencies” that give California courts clear jurisdiction: “a court of this state has temporary emergency jurisdiction over a child if the child is present in the state because the child has been unable to obtain gender-affirming health care or gender-affirming mental health care.”
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:47 pm to Chancellor
quote:You are mistaken. In some states, at one end of the spectrum, yes. In other states, at the other end of the spectrum, there is no additional crime at all. And between those two extremes are lots of states where the death of the fetus constitutes some lesser offense.
In every state - even those in which the murder of children in utero is legal- if you a murder a pregnant woman, you are also charged with the murder of her unborn child.
quote:You really seem to focus on this scenario. I suspect that you speak from experience and a certain level of embarrassment or perhaps even regret (buyer's remorse).
It’s tough that you’ll have to wear a condom when you go home with that fat chick from the bar
This post was edited on 9/1/23 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:48 pm to BamaAtl
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Republicans enjoying doing unConstitutional things.
Alabama has every right to prosecute actions that occur in Alabama. It is impossible for someone to leave the state of Alabama to get an abortion without that action beginning in the state of Alabama. Would be quite easy to prove.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:51 pm to RollTide1987
Going after 'conspiracy' huh, right out the leftist playbook.
Backwoods Protestant RINO Republicans prove time and time again they are no better than liberals when it comes to actually being conservative.
Backwoods Protestant RINO Republicans prove time and time again they are no better than liberals when it comes to actually being conservative.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 4:58 pm to AggieHank86
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You really seem to focus on this scenario.
Because it’s the obvious reason why trashy guys are mad AS frick- I mean seething fricking mad (look at that poor bastard Damone, for instance
) that women can’t murder their children in Alabama. 
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:00 pm to RollTide1987
These zealots are trying so hard to upend the nearly unbelievable, stunning progress they've achieved on this issue.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:01 pm to Chancellor
quote:you seem pretty angry Baw
Because it’s the obvious reason why trashy guys are mad AS frick- I mean seething fricking mad (look at that poor bastard Damone, for instance ) that women can’t murder their children in Alabama.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:02 pm to SuperSaint
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Backwoods Protestant RINO Republicans prove time and time again they are no better than liberals when it comes to actually being conservative
Stupid fricking Protestants. Damn Christians won’t let me murder babies and insist that I be responsible for my actions. How dare they make laws that prohibit murder!!!! Reeeeee!!!!
Goddamn. Un-fricking-hinged.
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