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re: 12 year old pitcher throwing 80 mph

Posted on 8/18/23 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 1:51 pm to
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Yeah the kids supposed common knowledge like “no breaking balls before 14” has absolutely nothing to support it and even has a small amount that says it’s neutral at worst and even detrimental perhaps to wait that long. Really wish that “common wisdom” would die

If I had to take a guess what the cause for explosions in TJ is baseball at this point if you want to be one of the best and have that goal is a 365 day a year sport there’s no off season from the start of like age 7

I wonder how much research things like inning limits, etc, things like this alll intended to avoid injury actually can make it more likely or worse. Someone should probably check it out if they haven’t



overuse certainly doesnt help but main cause is the average kid is walking around with way less muscle mass and strength than previous generations.

UCL can only take about 35 nm of force. Every hard throw even at 7, takes more force. the forces are dispersed through out the muscles of the forearm and the upper arm. Have to have the muscularity to handle that. most dont.

also kids get worse sleep and nutrition than previous generations which impacts recovery big time.

Other huge problem is being under prepared for the demands through shitastic on ramps. its why you see most of the injuries happen right before are at the start of the season for the most part.

kinds/teens take long periods off thinking they are helping their bodies, only thing is they dont give themselves long enough to get back up to speed and build to the demands being on the mound takes.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 1:56 pm to
Your last point was what i was getting at with how clubs handle guys coming back from TJ. I don’t have any doubt their intentions are good or anything I just wonder if hard inning limits and other things that reduce your ability to build back up all that stuff you talked about ultimately could result in a net negative. I have no clue at all but I think it deserves to be looked into.

This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35557 posts
Posted on 8/18/23 at 2:22 pm to
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lsu777

I'm just now seeing this, I apologize.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but elbow injuries have been a problem for the last 10-15 years. And IMO, it starts at the youth level. You can't have kids snapping off curves when they are 8-9-10 years old and their elbows are nowhere near developed yet. It should be fastballs and change-ups until they are at least 13. You are right that sliders don't put the pressure on the elbow that curves/splits do, but I would still be hesitant to have any kid that young attempt those.

What is also a problem is pitching every pitch at 100% effort, this I believe is as big if not a bigger problem. Coaches/orginazations are too hung up in on velo over actually pitching/location and the arm only has so many pitches in it so why not conserve some and pitch at 80-90% capacity and only go full effort when necessary.
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