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Non-galvanized Nail used in treated sill plate
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:40 pm
I had some framing repair work done on my house recently due to a leaky window and rot. The framer pointed out that the nails used to fasten the studs to the treated sill plate should be galvanized due to corrosion issues. He noted that all nails were non-galvanized.
I suspect my entire house is like this. My question to the those knowledgeable…..how big of a concern is this and how commonly are galvanized nails actually used in typical residential framing when nailing into a treated base plate?
Home was built in 2013.
I suspect my entire house is like this. My question to the those knowledgeable…..how big of a concern is this and how commonly are galvanized nails actually used in typical residential framing when nailing into a treated base plate?
Home was built in 2013.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 3:43 pm
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:20 pm to ShatRock
Not sure if that’s the norm or not , but I’d imagine the wood would have to rot away completely before a non galvanized nail was a real issue. I wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
One thing I do know about 100% of contractors. They love to shite on everyone else’s work…right or wrong
One thing I do know about 100% of contractors. They love to shite on everyone else’s work…right or wrong
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:03 pm to RaginCajunz
quote:yep
One thing I do know about 100% of contractors. They love to shite on everyone else’s work…right or wrong
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:56 pm to ShatRock
The recommendation for nails used with treated lumber are hot dipped galvanized, Monel, silicone bronze, or stainless steel. A lot of galvanized nails are electroplated and those are not recommended. This is primarily for the newer treated lumber. The old CCA-treated lumber is less corrosive to metal than the newer products.
But I think you are probably fine with what you have especially since it is effectively protected from the weather.
But I think you are probably fine with what you have especially since it is effectively protected from the weather.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:02 am to ShatRock
ain't no framer gonna change nails out in his gun between floor plates and the rest of the framing. and in general, treated floor plates are overkill.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 11:58 am to poochie
when we built on 2008, (not on slab) I was worried about the sill anchor bolts and corrosion. I think that you need a fair amount of moisture to get that corrosive effect from the wood treatment. Somebody more knowledgeable can correct me on that if needed. as long as it remains dry (and it should) you're fine. Lots of moisture on sill plate and you've got bigger problems.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:21 am to RaginCajunz
To be clear, the rot was not caused by the non galvanized nails, the contractor was just pointing out that galvanized nails should be used when there is treated wood.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 9:05 am to ShatRock
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the rot was not caused by the non galvanized nails, the contractor was just pointing out that galvanized nails should be used when there is treated wood.
i would posit that the fact that the wood was rotten and the non-galvanized nails were still in place actually proves the point that galvanized nails aren't needed. if your wood is wet enough for long enough to rot, it will have catastrophic failure before non-coated nails do.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:05 pm to ShatRock
There was a period after CCA treated when the treatment was very corrosive. I wouldn’t worry about it anymore unless it’s exposed or coastal
Posted on 8/12/23 at 10:57 am to ShatRock
The people answering here are a little confused. It’s not about causing rot. The non-galvanized nails will corrode inside of a treated piece of wood. That’s why you use galvanized.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 12:53 pm to RaginCajunz
It’s not about the wood rotting the nail corrodes away till it’s gone
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:22 pm to notyourminion
LINK
these studies had some interesting results. one item to note, corrosion is an aqueous process. corrosion won't occur below a certain wood moisture content.
these studies had some interesting results. one item to note, corrosion is an aqueous process. corrosion won't occur below a certain wood moisture content.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 2:42 pm to Jmcc64
Looks like a very in depth and interesting study. Hopefully someone here is smarter than me and can read it and give cliffnotes. 
I hadn't realized that there are a few different acceptable treatments and that some are less caustic to fasteners than others. I know I've torn apart some decks built 10-15 years ago and the "coated" screws were all ate up. From simply rusted off to rust jacked 3x the size causing the wood to split.
I hadn't realized that there are a few different acceptable treatments and that some are less caustic to fasteners than others. I know I've torn apart some decks built 10-15 years ago and the "coated" screws were all ate up. From simply rusted off to rust jacked 3x the size causing the wood to split.
Posted on 8/12/23 at 3:32 pm to Turnblad85
The newer treatments are less corrosive. It was a big deal for a while. Also the above ground treatment is less wet.
Posted on 8/13/23 at 8:30 am to Art Vandelay
If you google this topic, people act like it’s the end of the world and the nails will be gone within a few years.
The gist that I get from this board is that no framing crew is going to switch nails while framing and it’s not that big of a deal.
Anyone here with experience on framing crews and wether some actually switch to galvanized for the treated base/sill plate?
The gist that I get from this board is that no framing crew is going to switch nails while framing and it’s not that big of a deal.
Anyone here with experience on framing crews and wether some actually switch to galvanized for the treated base/sill plate?
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