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re: Did the 2020 CARES Act help fund the election steal?
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:24 am to Wally Sparks
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:24 am to Wally Sparks
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I also don’t buy that Trump didn’t understand the depths of D.C.’s scum, no one at his age and in his position is that naive.
The money at issue was directed to states.
I suspect he was pretty naive when it came to the shenanigans some of them would pull until it was too late (and even the [Pennsylvania] the courts wouldn't step in)
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:24 am to SDVTiger
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No idea but not taking Time Mag or that slob Deaces word for it
Would you accept it if you saw it was written in the bill itself?
Straight from the federal government's election commisipn website.
Don't take anyone else's word for it, look yourself.
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The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (CARES Act) included $400 million in new Help America Vote Act (HAVA) emergency funds, made available to states to prevent, prepare for, and respond to the coronavirus for the 2020 federal election cycle. This supplemental appropriation funding, distributed by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC), provided states with additional resources to protect the 2020 elections from the effects of the novel coronavirus.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:24 am to burger bearcat
Was Trump perfect? No. Did he get fooled? Yes. Judging by the fact that 40 of his 44 cabinet appointments have come out against him he was fooled a lot.
But, is he part of the problem or a pain in the arse of those who are the problem? He is the only remotely close to outsider in the race and I for one don't mind putting him back there to irritate the crap out of the deep staters. I know full well that he will be fooled again many times, but it's better than anyone else running who will just rubber stamp the uniparty line.
If anyone else is elected besides Trump or Kennedy, they will have fooled us once again. At least he is one of us.
In other words, whoever the uniparty is against, I am for.
But, is he part of the problem or a pain in the arse of those who are the problem? He is the only remotely close to outsider in the race and I for one don't mind putting him back there to irritate the crap out of the deep staters. I know full well that he will be fooled again many times, but it's better than anyone else running who will just rubber stamp the uniparty line.
If anyone else is elected besides Trump or Kennedy, they will have fooled us once again. At least he is one of us.
In other words, whoever the uniparty is against, I am for.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:25 am to Adam Banks
He also sucks at beating Joe Brandon in presidential elections
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:27 am to udtiger
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I suspect he was pretty naive when it came to the shenanigans
Again, this always seems to be a pattern. We are ok with it because it was Trump and his heart was in the right place and he was just naive. We shouldn't just accept this.
At what point do we just need him to win, and stop "trying his best". He steps on rakes over and over, because he does not understand how to navigate the swamp and what is truly the pounding, beating heart of this whole thing and what it would take to dismantle it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:28 am to ELVIS U
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But, is he part of the problem or a pain in the arse of those who are the problem?
The moral of the story, if you say you are conservative and you expand government it will come back and bite you in the arse. Trump should have known better. He is part of the problem. He doesn't get it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:29 am to frogtown
You still claim Trump told ppl not to vote in the runoff 
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:31 am to ELVIS U
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In other words, whoever the uniparty is against, I am for.
Trump was part of the "uniparty" in giving $400 million to the states. I am sorry you fail to get it. This is what Steve Deace is saying.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:32 am to burger bearcat
it doesnt say the 400mil was to Change Procedures but to protect. Interesting choice of words
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:34 am to SDVTiger
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You still claim Trump told ppl not to vote in the runoff
His lawyers who speak for him did. Same thing. Trump was responsible.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 6:36 am
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:41 am to frogtown
Trump also told Georgia voters that their election system was rigged and crooked, surely that didn’t have any effect on voter turnout!
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:41 am to frogtown
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Dec. 5, 2020, 10:01 PM EST
By Allan Smith
VALDOSTA, Ga. — President Donald Trump emphatically called on Georgia voters to cast ballots for Sens. David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler in next month's runoff Senate elections
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Trump urges backers to vote in runoffs
Then, at 10:02 a.m., he gave Ms. Loeffler and the other Republican on the ballot, David Perdue, his most enthusiastic support to date after a week of suggesting his supporters might not vote in the runoff because the election was “invalid.”
“Georgia, get out and VOTE for two great Senators,” he wrote. “So important to do so!”
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:45 am to Damone
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Trump also told Georgia voters that their election system was rigged and crooked
It was and still is. The 2020 election was stolen and Biden is illegitimate.
My issue is did Trump's government have a hand in funding to this.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:47 am to burger bearcat
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Did the CARES Act provide funding to states to facilitate ballot harvesting, mail in voting, etc. or not?
I would say so.
The intent on Trump’s end was probably altruistic (helping people in a time of need). It was shortsighted though, as it allowed for some Leftist heavy aspects to be shoved through.
Iirc, the Post Office was bailed out in perpetuity (did they assist in the “steal?”). I believe that the teachers union in Chicago also got major money for their pensions.
Massey was correct to oppose it on principle.
The end result was a very happy swamp (Dems / RINOs).
As for it helping to steal the election, the answer is: PROBABLY.
The CARES ACT, while seemingly well intentioned, was a boondoggle.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:50 am to Damone
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Trump also told Georgia voters that their election system was rigged and crooked
I don’t have ANY faith in Georgia. NONE.
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surely that didn’t have any effect on voter turnout!
Perhaps.
Or perhaps they believed (realized?) that their vote no longer mattered.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:07 am to ELVIS U
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But, is he part of the problem or a pain in the arse of those who are the problem?
The problem is that he’s not part of the solution. I want solutions more than I want to piss off the libs. I don’t care how much they hate him, I care about fixing the problems.
If we were operating in a vacuum and had no other information at all to inform us, then looking at who they hate the most would make some sense. But we have more than that.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:11 am to jimmy the leg
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The CARES ACT, while seemingly well intentioned, was a boondoggle.
Not to toot my own horn, but there were a few of us screaming about this at the time, and Trump tried to run my Congressman (Massie), one of the few decent ones, out of DC because of this altruistic, but short-sighted boondoggle.
At what point does it matter if it was either because of malice or incompetence. If the results are the same, does it ultimately matter what the intent was?
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:15 am to Flats
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If we were operating in a vacuum and had no other information at all to inform us, then looking at who they hate the most would make some sense. But we have more than that.
For all we know, the left intentionally directs their rage and lawfare at Trump, because they know it will garner the reaction they are seeking. They see it as a win-win.
I really don't think they hate Trump as much as they put off (and by they, I mean the power brokers). They see him as a shiny toy they can play with and steer the masses (left and right) whichever direction they want them to go.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:25 am to burger bearcat
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results
That’s the word I care about.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:32 am to burger bearcat
The inflation we are dealing with was started by The Cares Act as well. Terrible bill but MAGA loved those stimulus checks!
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