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re: There is a reason young men are rejecting the Church and following guys like Andrew Tate

Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:26 am to
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
8944 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:26 am to
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So he is a “do as I say, not as I do” kind of person


To some degree, aren't we all? The only perfect man was Jesus.

But you are sort of missing the point of my OP, as it wasn't really meant to say how great Tate is. I was simply contrasting his message with the normal, watered down message coming from most American churches these days.

I wish the Church could discuss the issues he's willing to discuss. But instead they would rather give a feel good, Ted talk about how you need to be nice all the time.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6888 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 6:28 am to
Fair enough. I agree the church has failed at leading.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11492 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

So he is a “do as I say, not as I do” kind of person


quote:

To some degree, aren't we all?


Boom.
Posted by AURulz1
Member since May 2022
177 posts
Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

To some degree, aren't we all? The only perfect man was Jesus.

But you are sort of missing the point of my OP, as it wasn't really meant to say how great Tate is. I was simply contrasting his message with the normal, watered down message coming from most American churches these days.

I wish the Church could discuss the issues he's willing to discuss. But instead they would rather give a feel good, Ted talk about how you need to be nice all the time.





This applies to education as well.
Posted by Squirrelmeister
Member since Nov 2021
1900 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 1:04 am to
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The only perfect man was Jesus.


He had a problem with tax collectors and money exchangers. He threatened to destroy the temple.

He killed a sounder of pigs that were minding their business. (Well that does sound like fun… maybe that’s not so bad.)

He killed a fig tree because it had no fruit (out of season).

He didn’t believe in washing his hands before eating. Apparently he didn’t know about germs.

Jesus said if you believe in him and his father and pray and believe, anything your pray for will come true. Last time I checked, little kids still die of cancer.

Jesus (and Paul) said many in his generation will not experience death because he will be returning within their generation. We’ve been waiting 2000 years…

He foolishly told people to give away their possessions and money and follow him because the world was about to end anyway.

He told his followers they must hate themselves and their families.

He told people to gouge out their eyes if seeing made them list after women.

He was kind of a dick to his disciples in the gospel of Mark. He treated them like idiots most of the time.

Jesus condoned slavery.

In the infancy gospel of Thomas found at Nag Hammadi, Jesus kills like 3 random kids and strikes blind some of their neighbors.
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