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re: Explain to me like I’m 5. How is trump gonna win Georgia, Pennsylvania , Wisconsin Arizona

Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:19 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119563 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:19 am to
He lost GA by 11,779 even with all the ballot harvesting in GA in 2020. Ballot harvesting is now illegal in GA.

He lost WI by 20,682. If MAGA loving Ron Johnson can win win WI with 52% of the vote there is no reason Trump can't.

In AZ he lost by 10,457 votes.

Just those three states and Trump is president right now.

Just my opinion and you are free to disagree but I think it will be a lot harder for the Democrats to cheat in 2024 especially with the real time Fractal software that will be deployed. It matches ballot names with ballot names and physical addresses in real time as the ballots are counted. Any mismatches will be immediately flagged and challenged.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 8:23 am
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 8:28 am to
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Ballot harvesting is now illegal in GA.


It has always been illegal.

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He lost GA by 11,779


It has gotten worse for Trump here in GA since 2020. DeSantis polls better.

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In AZ he lost by 10,457 votes.


Ditto with Arizona.

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He lost WI by 20,682.


This will be close, but DeSantis polls better than Trump here.

You also need to realize Trump won't be running against Biden. Biden has "unfavorables" almost equal to Trump.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50658 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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He lost WI by 20,682. If MAGA loving Ron Johnson can win win WI with 52% of the vote there is no reason Trump can't.



Trump underperformed Johnson by around 70k votes when they were on the same ballot.

And you are lying like a good little Cultist. Johnson got 50.4% of the vote in 2022 running against a raging progressive, Mandela Barnes, that makes AOC look almost normal.

Without Trump Johnson would have won that race easily. Instead it was a nail biter.

eta-Trump has zero chance of winning WI.

This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5226 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 10:15 am to
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If MAGA loving Ron Johnson can win win WI with 52% of the vote there is no reason Trump can't.


A lot of people who voted for Ron Johnson hate Trump and will never vote for him - particularly suburban Independents and soccer moms. When they were on the same ballot in 2016, Johnson received nearly 75K more votes than Trump did and badly outperformed him in the suburban counties. Congressional Republicans outperformed Trump in the precincts of suburban counties as well.

There’s a reason why Ron Johnson was able to survive in 2022 while Trump’s guys like Tim Michels and Daniel Kelly lost. Suburban Independents and soccer moms looked at Michels and Kelly and saw Trump, and they didn’t vote for them. When they looked at Ron Johnson, they saw a normal Republican and voted for him.
This post was edited on 7/28/23 at 10:17 am
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Member since Jan 2011
22372 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 1:48 pm to
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He lost GA by 11,779 even with all the ballot harvesting in GA in 2020. Ballot harvesting is now illegal in GA.

He lost WI by 20,682. If MAGA loving Ron Johnson can win win WI with 52% of the vote there is no reason Trump can't.

In AZ he lost by 10,457 votes.

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but also

/RepublicanPrimary
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22211 posts
Posted on 7/28/23 at 5:48 pm to
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He lost GA by 11,779 even with all the ballot harvesting in GA in 2020. Ballot harvesting is now illegal in GA.


It was largely illegal when they did it. You keep repeating this even after you've been corrected multiple times, so either your memory sucks or you're just being dishonest.
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