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re: "Gender affirming healthcare"

Posted on 7/20/23 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12274 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 3:03 pm to
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I'm not acting like anything. I'm directly engaging in the OPs question. If more folks on this board would actually discuss issues instead of circle jerking or assuming agendas and perspectives it would make for a more interesting time.


An honest discussion is when you actually argue based on your beliefs yet you say you don't agree with toxic hormones and surgeries and are just basically arguing for the sake of discussion. No one on here believes that is the case infact I personally believe, deep down, you're ashamed to admit you believe in trans people. Just FYI, that shame, is your conscience telling you that you're wrong.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7408 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 3:38 pm to
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honest discussion is when you actually argue based on your beliefs


So you don't beleive you can have an honest discussion without arguing your beliefs? What about an honest discussion to help form your beliefs? I honestly don't have strong held beliefs on the trans issue. I find it an extremely fascinating topic and one that potentially has huge implications as transhumanism starts to enter the picture. After all if gender ID is a highly debated issue wait till we start asking What is human.. So Im just asking questions...throwing out ideas to try to form my opinion.

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say you don't agree with toxic hormones and surgeries and are just basically arguing for the sake of discussion.


Again that is a subject I'm still not sure about at least when it comes to adults.The data is...well there just isn't a lot of it. The pushing of the affirmative care model is problematic imo.

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one on here believes that is the case infact I personally believe, deep down, you're ashamed to admit you believe in trans people. Just FYI, that shame, is your conscience telling you that you're wrong.


Believe in trans people? I believe there are folks that perceive themselves as trans. Why would I be ashamed of that? I think folks on this board have such strong opinions on this subject and others that it is difficult to engage with someone that doesn't...hence the assumptions and accusations about what I beleive or what I'm ashamed of. It happens a lot...its kinda wierd.
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