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re: "Gender affirming healthcare"
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
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The concept that gender and sex are separate and gender is just a social construct makes sense to me. Its not a new concept either and cultures have accepted this concept through out history.
It is a new concept and cultures have not accepted this concept throughout history.
John Money is pretty much universally regarded as the first person to separate the two in 1955. Then 2nd wave feminists in the 1960s and 70s popularized the idea among the general public.
All of the "Two-Spirit," "Sekrata," "Hijra," nonsense is propaganda. If you actually look into those things you will not find what we think of as a "transgendered person." You will find descriptions of eunuchs, people who emphasize that they have both masculine and feminine personality traits or spiritual traits, gay or bi-sexual people, etc. But you will not find evidence that other cultures recognized a male as a female or a female as a male, which is what we're trying to force everyone to do and which is essential to the claim that sex and gender are entirely separate.
Just the fact that these cultures had different names for whatever group is being discussed is self-evident proof that they did not view this question the way it is being framed today.
They didn't say that their word for "man" or "woman" applied to anyone who claimed it, regardless of any other characteristic they might have had. They looked at the characteristics and created a new word to describe that set of characteristics.
What we called a gay, masculine woman or feminine, bisexual man, for example, they had other names for.
Those are not "additional genders."
This post was edited on 7/19/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:46 pm to wackatimesthree
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But you will not find evidence that other cultures recognized a male as a female or a female as a male
I didnt realize that is what transgendered folks were arguing. In fact I've never heard one argue that one's born sex could be changed.... although they do use the term assigned male or female at birth
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st the fact that these cultures had different names for whatever group is being discussed is self-evident proof that they did not view this question the way it is being framed today.
Thats a fair point and I agree in the sense that I think the terms transwomen and transman should remain distinct identifying terms
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