For purposes of discussion, let's accept the notion that gender confusion (whether dysmorphia or dysphoria) is a "mental illness."

It seems to me that there are three broad categories of response. First, do nothing. Second, psychological/psychiatric treatment. Third, physical treatment.

Hopefully, not many people propose "do nothing." Again as I see it, the second option is basically an attempt to alter the contents of the package to match its exterior, while the third option is an attempt to alter the packaging to match the contents.

I've yet to see a coherent and logical reason that altering the contents is a better response than altering the packaging.

To the contrary, it seems to me that the "essence" of a person is not the packaging, but the personality, the memories and the thought processes that it contains ... the "soul" if you will. Changing the packaging to match the contents just makes more sense to me, if it were just a toggle switch. It isn't a toggle switch, no two people/patients are the same, and it seems to me that one solution might be best for one person, while the other approach might be better for the other.

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why is a surgery to alter the sexual organs to match the person's self-identified gender considered "gender affirming"?

Yet another example of worrying more about labels than substance, IMO.

The reasoning behind the terminology is not difficult to understand. If the "packaging" is being altered to match the "contents," then the "contents" are being affirmed as being the true essence of the person at issue.

Personally, I could not care less about the terminology.

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Posted on 7/19/23 at 12:34 pm to AggieHank86

castration = Gender affirming healthcare

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Posted by wackatimesthree

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Posted on 7/19/23 at 1:00 pm to AggieHank86

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I've yet to see a coherent and logical reason that altering the contents is a better response than altering the packaging.

Perhaps you should look up the health risks that accompany long term "transition" dose estrogen therapy for men and testosterone therapy for women.

Huge increase in risk of heart attacks, strokes, pulmonary embolisms, etc. Stuff that can kill you or leave you disabled for life.

In exchange for what? A very modest decrease in the likelihood of suicide.

Medicine is a risk-reward game. Anybody who was looking at the facts objectively would not conclude that the medical potential rewards here outweigh the risks, but no one in this game (including you, apparently) are regarding the data objectively.

This is from the Mayo Clinic website:

Complications can include:

Blood clots in a deep vein or in the lungs
Heart problems
High levels of triglycerides, a type of fat, in the blood
High levels of potassium in the blood
High levels of the hormone prolactin in the blood
Nipple discharge
Weight gain
Infertility
High blood pressure
Type 2 diabetes
Stroke

This is right after they say "gender affirming care can be 'safe and effective.'"

I'm not aware of any study in the world that shows any more than a modest decrease in likelihood of suicide following "gender affirming care" when the long term is considered (or even medium term, for that matter...the longest studies I've seen on it only carry out the study for a year or so).

So I call bullshite on "effective."

Safe? Transgender women have been found to be twice as likely as biological women to have a thromboembolism and 80%-90% more likely to have a stroke or heart attack.

So that's another bullshite moment from the Mayo Clinic. And you.

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