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Let me take you back to 2002 for LSU...
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:13 pm
Led by the great Nick Saban, we went 7-4 and lost our bowl game.
Got our arse beat by Virginia Tech, Auburn, Alabama(31-0, and Texas.
We had a bad qb.
In 2005 Oklahoma went 8-4.
Last year UF went 9-4.
Sometimes $hit happens and you have bad years. Don't be an arse because we are currently having one. Give Les a chance to make the changes required and lets see what happens next year.
Got our arse beat by Virginia Tech, Auburn, Alabama(31-0, and Texas.
We had a bad qb.
In 2005 Oklahoma went 8-4.
Last year UF went 9-4.
Sometimes $hit happens and you have bad years. Don't be an arse because we are currently having one. Give Les a chance to make the changes required and lets see what happens next year.
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Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:13 pm to footballislife
+1000000000
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:14 pm to footballislife
Yeeeeaaaahhh, not really excited for next year but the guy deserves a mulligan year. Anyone who says otherwise needs to chill out.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:15 pm to footballislife
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:17 pm to footballislife
yeah but you could see some positive trends, mainly the arrival of a true Saban defense. Even though we were banged up on defense by end of season, you could see the defense developing and keeping us in games. Except for Auburn (MR turnovers) and bama (just got our arse beat), we played well enough to come within one play of SEC CG.
Didn't see any positive trends on this team despite being more talented, especially on offense.
Didn't see any positive trends on this team despite being more talented, especially on offense.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:17 pm to footballislife
Yep
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:18 pm to footballislife
If he hires a real DC in the off season I will cut him some slack.
If he sticks with dumb and dumber it will be Dinardo part 2.
If he sticks with dumb and dumber it will be Dinardo part 2.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:25 pm to footballislife
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the great Nick Saban
This board is getting better all the time!
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:25 pm to footballislife
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Sometimes $hit happens and you have bad years. Don't be an arse because we are currently having one. Give Les a chance to make the changes required and lets see what happens next year.
+1000000000000000000000
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:26 pm to footballislife
Les has next year to make his mark.
It's all part of being a good program.
It's all part of being a good program.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:30 pm to footballislife
What changes do you think Les will make? I have no reason to believe that the 2 headed monster will be replaced. The team could have easily lost to Auburn, Troy State, South Carolina and really never had a good game all year. Realistically by ratings, we have a lot of talent that appears to underachieve at best.
Posted on 11/22/08 at 9:52 pm to footballislife
So that's why the Defense was been so bad this year.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 8:55 am to footballislife
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Last year UF went 9-4.
Why this comparison. I know, they had a Heisman and lost 4 after a NC, but their defense was decimated and ours was not. Yes, we lost Steltz, Highsmith, Dorsey and some other key players, but had alot of lineman back. They have had no pressure all year. When you have green dbs, you gotta have pressure from your lbs and front four, which they have not done.
In 02, we were doing well before Mauck got hurt. If he doesn't get hurt, who knows how we finish up.
I will give Miles the benefit of the doubt. But if the DC doesn't happen, then I fear more of the same next year and then he will need to go.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 9:23 am to footballislife
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In 2005 Oklahoma went 8-4.
Yeah this was a similar type season. I believe this was when Rhett Bomar was kicked off the team during the summer and they played I believe Paul Thompson all year.
I'm not worried about our QB play really, its our defense that's
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:47 am to footballislife
I agree! Great Point
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:53 am to footballislife
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Led by the great Nick Saban, we went 7-4 and lost our bowl game.
Got our arse beat by Virginia Tech, Auburn, Alabama(31-0, and Texas.
We had a bad qb.
In 2005 Oklahoma went 8-4.
Last year UF went 9-4.
Sometimes $hit happens and you have bad years. Don't be an arse because we are currently having one. Give Les a chance to make the changes required and lets see what happens next year.
LSU has tons of talent and could easily have lost 2 or 3 more games than it did. This season wasn't just "bad". It was awful.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:55 am to footballislife
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Saban
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Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:57 am to footballislife
I will reserve judgement until next season, but if he lays one turd, he is Bar B Q.
Posted on 11/23/08 at 10:59 am to footballislife
BS. You are skewing the stats on purpose.
Just look at regular season games, this is the worst performance by a BCS champ. period.
And in 2002 the defense was much improved. Dinardo recruited NO cornerbacks and for his first two years, Saban was stuck playing safeties at cb (see pass defense in 2001). Dinardo also didn't recruit any qbs his last year either (remember his betting the farm on getting Jason Campbell?).
So......Saban started out 2002 behind the curve, UNLIKE MILES in that he had no real qb's or talented ones. Mauck was the best he had on a lineup and Mauck sucked until the Florida game. The main reason we had a good year was..... drum roll........... DEFENSE. Yup, we had a defense that started to kick arse and rank in the top eschelons of college football. Auburn was lost because of turnovers by MR and bama whipped us, but other than that, the defense kept us in every game that year.
UNLIKE THIS YEAR when our defense was a COMPLETE JOKE!!!
You could watch our D and the rest of the team in 2002 and see similarities to Parcell's Giants team and Ditka's bears team the year before they won the Super Bowl and see that things WERE getting better and when they got another year and more depth in Saban's system, they were going to be a mother on defense, and they were.
As for Texas, well, our dumbass trainer doesn't stick IV in wrong arm on Randall, probably different story.
There is no way to compare 2002 to 2008, especially when we have had SIX DAMN YEARS of top notch recruiting, NOT ONE!!!
Just look at regular season games, this is the worst performance by a BCS champ. period.
And in 2002 the defense was much improved. Dinardo recruited NO cornerbacks and for his first two years, Saban was stuck playing safeties at cb (see pass defense in 2001). Dinardo also didn't recruit any qbs his last year either (remember his betting the farm on getting Jason Campbell?).
So......Saban started out 2002 behind the curve, UNLIKE MILES in that he had no real qb's or talented ones. Mauck was the best he had on a lineup and Mauck sucked until the Florida game. The main reason we had a good year was..... drum roll........... DEFENSE. Yup, we had a defense that started to kick arse and rank in the top eschelons of college football. Auburn was lost because of turnovers by MR and bama whipped us, but other than that, the defense kept us in every game that year.
UNLIKE THIS YEAR when our defense was a COMPLETE JOKE!!!
You could watch our D and the rest of the team in 2002 and see similarities to Parcell's Giants team and Ditka's bears team the year before they won the Super Bowl and see that things WERE getting better and when they got another year and more depth in Saban's system, they were going to be a mother on defense, and they were.
As for Texas, well, our dumbass trainer doesn't stick IV in wrong arm on Randall, probably different story.
There is no way to compare 2002 to 2008, especially when we have had SIX DAMN YEARS of top notch recruiting, NOT ONE!!!
Posted on 11/23/08 at 11:00 am to footballislife
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Let me take you back to 2002 for LSU...
Led by the great Nick Saban, we went 7-4 and lost our bowl game.
Got our arse beat by Virginia Tech, Auburn, Alabama(31-0, and Texas.
We had a bad qb.
This is not 2002. In 2002, we had not won a MNC since 1958. We have won two MNC's since 2002. The expectations are MUCH great because of those championships.
BTW, we had a bad QB because Mauck had that foot injury in the win at UF that year. Who knows what could have happened had we not had to throw Randall in there with his dear-in-the-headlights look behind center...
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