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re: “If you place me back in the White House their reign is over”

Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:17 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:17 pm to
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What “muh fight”, specifically?

Trump's persona and the Patriot way.

Being irrationally aggressive to people he perceives as his enemies, seen as "fighting", which is what is most valued about him. This irrational aggression and the temperament that goes with it pissed off people from whom he needed support. This is politics, and you can't do that if you want to succeed.

Patriots claim Trump couldn't get support but can't explain how anything will be different if Trump wins in 2024.

RDS is a much more skilled politician who understands how to get that support needed to pass legislation. To the "muh fight" crowd, this is seen as being a RINO/WEF puppet/Swamp Monster (because he got support from those people to get laws passed).

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Your “would’ves” don’t carry a lot of weight with me.


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What is Desantis going to be able to differently?


Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 7:24 pm to
What an odd take. Interesting.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 8:21 pm to
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RDS is a much more skilled politician who understands how to get that support needed to pass legislation. To the "muh fight" crowd, this is seen as being a RINO/WEF puppet/Swamp Monster (because he got support from those people to get laws passed).
What meaningful legislation has been passed since 2004, when they last passed a budget? They legislate for the chamber of commerce to serve themselves & their slush funds.

Trump sent them a budget as mandated and they said hell to the no because they legislate in continuing resolutions. Trump wanted ObamaCare- the expensive marketplace, the tax penalty, appealed- They nixed Trump again, As they truly like ObamaCare because they all got their palms greased big time by big pharma.

Trump wanted his wall (his trade deals renegotiated with Mexico on automobile tariffs alone would indeed pay for the wall)

Trump secured the border in negotiation with Mexico using their military to keep the vile cartels and thugs out.

They would not 'legislate' for the wall which would have paid itself off. So Trump tried to get money from the Pentagon under nat sec reasoning and they threatened impeachment.

They nixed Trump's immigration completely and mirrored the democrats immigration.

Your theory is based on the fallacy of fiscal responsibility. With the utopian fantasy that Paul Ryan type of politicians are numbers gurus in legislation. They are silent lobbyists.

Ron DeSantis would carry the same chamber of commerce torch in doing their bidding; in not serving the people but in getting more palms greased with his establishment buddies.

Ron DeSantis would not tell the MIC to pound sand when they want another fake war. He didn't in Congress (or else you would have heard of him back then as you did Rand Paul) and wouldn't as President.

Ron DeSantis would never go to a Rose Garden podium and call to reform the Paris Accords or any trade deals, or the great reset globalism-- they want us thinking is inevitable.

Do you crave the status quo diplomatic proper Romney stuff, because then there are no mean tweets or gas lighting?

Knock yourself out, but it has failed in 50 years of canned speeches of what they are going to do; and they never do anything but serve themselves and their slush funds.

Also, Ron and his fake schtick with MAGA cap tossings to his audience, & campaign MAGA onesies, he is Trump with a filter. He even copied all the sayings and hand gestures. Is an insult, creepy AF, & downright heinous.

As he is really more like Paul Ryan (his self-admitted mentor) in tacky lift boots pissing down our backs and telling us bro, it's okay, it's raining.
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