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re: Kevin McCarthy: "We let government grow, but at a slower rate"
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:57 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 5/31/23 at 4:57 am to burger bearcat
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burger bearcat
Your expectations are simply unrealistic. It would be like saying the QB of your favorite team should have just jumped over the defense. That foolishness ignores that it is impossible.
McCarthy and the Republicans did not get much for their threat to not fund the government, but that’s because they didn’t have much power.
Are you familiar with BATNA? It’s the Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement. The Republicans’ BATNA was that the Government runs out of funding and the President has to shut down parts of the government. He would choose things that hurt the most people, and he would blame Republicans. This has been proven to work again and again. The Republicans would lose control of the House in the next election.
Does that sound effective to you? So they had to have a negotiated agreement, just as Biden did. BATNA wasn’t great for him, either. The Republicans got a decent deal.
If you want more austere fiscal policy then you must elect those type of Republicans. Trump damn sure isn’t one of them. Like Bill Clinton, Trump benefited by the heavy lifting done by the previous (two) administrations.
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 5:55 am to Penrod
quote:
Does that sound effective to you? So they had to have a negotiated agreement, just as Biden did. BATNA wasn’t great for him, either. The Republicans got a decent deal
How so? Why would I care if the federal government defaulted? Sounds like a problem for Democrats. They campaigned on the 87,000 IRS agents. All they could was cut them 1%?
Sounds like capitulation, not compromise to me. The problem with Republicans, is our leaders all look and sound like McCarthy. Pathetic, weak, emasculated, little imps. They have no idea how to lead, and are constantly led by screeching Democrats and leftist media attack dogs.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 6:40 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 6:39 am to Penrod
quote:
Your expectations are simply unrealistic. It would be like saying the QB of your favorite team should have just jumped over the defense. That foolishness ignores that it is impossible.
McCarthy and the Republicans did not get much for their threat to not fund the government, but that’s because they didn’t have much power.
Are you familiar with BATNA? It’s the Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement. The Republicans’ BATNA was that the Government runs out of funding and the President has to shut down parts of the government. He would choose things that hurt the most people, and he would blame Republicans. This has been proven to work again and again. The Republicans would lose control of the House in the next election.
Does that sound effective to you? So they had to have a negotiated agreement, just as Biden did. BATNA wasn’t great for him, either. The Republicans got a decent deal.
If you want more austere fiscal policy then you must elect those type of Republicans. Trump damn sure isn’t one of them. Like Bill Clinton, Trump benefited by the heavy lifting done by the previous (two) administrations.
Lot of words for "surrender".
Steve Scalise is on Fox Biz right now say McCarthy did a good deal and McCarthy is saying it's the largest cut ever - it's all lies.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 7:52 am to Penrod
This bs better get stopped by the voices that committed themselves that they stand up to KM. If not then Comer, Gaetz and the others are no better than KM. Personally I’d rather a default, and I mean a real default, to crash this whole greedy government. We have offices up in DC that make laws that are not voted on. We have bills with 1000’s of pages that no one politician has a clue about written by lobbyists who serve their own interests, then voted on. We have such a gluttony of evil that has no intention whatsoever to stop. Let this bs end so strong men can rise from the ashes and rebuild
Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:36 am to Penrod
quote:
Your expectations are simply unrealistic. It would be like saying the QB of your favorite team should have just jumped over the defense. That foolishness ignores that it is impossible.
McCarthy and the Republicans did not get much for their threat to not fund the government, but that’s because they didn’t have much power.
Are you familiar with BATNA? It’s the Best Alternative To a Negotiated Agreement. The Republicans’ BATNA was that the Government runs out of funding and the President has to shut down parts of the government. He would choose things that hurt the most people, and he would blame Republicans. This has been proven to work again and again. The Republicans would lose control of the House in the next election.
Does that sound effective to you? So they had to have a negotiated agreement, just as Biden did. BATNA wasn’t great for him, either. The Republicans got a decent deal.
If you want more austere fiscal policy then you must elect those type of Republicans. Trump damn sure isn’t one of them. Like Bill Clinton, Trump benefited by the heavy lifting done by the previous (two) administrations.
That is your opinion. Another is allow the shut down and go on the offensive pushing back against Democrats. Be vocal and loud, telling Americans what Biden will do and calling him out. Republicans COULD resist and be successful, but they won't and it isn't due to some honorable or intelligent acronym (BATNA), it's simply a lack of courage and self preservation.
What some don't understand is that nothing changes if nothing changes. Usually meaningful change doesn't happen without a fight, the resistance must overcome and that doesn't happen by continuing to give up. This only prolongs the inevitable. Sometimes people have to stand up and fight or continue to be preyed upon.
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