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re: Why did Trump approve 250 million in military aid for Ukraine against Russia?

Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:25 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9316 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:25 pm to
Why are you obsessed with Trump? Just like all the groomers and baby killers.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15483 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:30 pm to
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So you would say Trump is status quo then and will continue to act as the global police?


There are some issues where you have to maintain the status quo. Ukraine is one of them. Really anywhere in the Slavic world, global stability is at risk when this shite starts happening. Taiwan in Asia is another. When global world powers start or want to invade another country, to make it apart of their country, the US has to step in in some sort of way. Just the way it is.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25749 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

“We put up a lot of money. I gave you anti-tank busters that, frankly, President Obama was sending you pillows and sheets,” Trump said.


Seems like a leader thing for Trump to do.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12104 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:02 pm to
According to Democrat Politicians, impossible, Putin was Trump's buddy.
Putin was helping him get elected.

Oh, that was proven to be a lie, he is Hillary's bud after the "Reset".
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:07 pm to
Now do FJB and rob.
quote:

Why did Trump approve 250 million in military aid for Ukraine against Russia?


Because he obviously thought it was the right thing to do at the time.

Why do weasels like yourself let Mr. Trump live in your thoughts 24/7? Do you really believe you are going to change the fact Mr. Trump will be the GOP nominee?

Now do FJB and rob.




TRUMP 2024?



Posted by Tigereye78
Member since May 2023
191 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:35 pm to
Chump is all in on globohomo as long as kids have parental consent.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71682 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Looks like he not only supported a proxy war with Russia but he urged other NATO members to do so as well? Maybe I'm wrong and someone can explain to me what he was doing



Fake news. XiNN told me he was working for Putin.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32728 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:38 pm to
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Why are you obsessed with Trump? Just like all the groomers and baby killers.

Speaking of baby killers. Trump thinks Ron's 6 week ban on abortion was "too harsh"

Please tell me how the almighty leader was also right here though.

Desantis is more conservative than trump, he's just not the leader of your cult.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32728 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 7:39 pm to
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There are some issues where you have to maintain the status quo. Ukraine is one of them. Really anywhere in the Slavic world, global stability is at risk when this shite starts happening. Taiwan in Asia is another. When global world powers start or want to invade another country, to make it apart of their country, the US has to step in in some sort of way. Just the way it is.
Bruh so you're saying you're cool with the American Military being actively involved with potential wars with China and Russia? But is it only if Trump says we should?

I'm assuming you guys are happy with Biden and Pelosi's stances on these then.
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:17 pm to
Just a wild guess, but other than for some not as yet fully defined military-social objective, could it at least be a hint of evidence that he's really not the collusive, fawning, lap-dog to Putin as the Left has been grinding since one late night in November of 2015.

One more twist to the Alinsky point-of-light: "always accuse the opposition of exactly what you are."

After all, there's incontrovertible, inescapable evidence existing of the Left gushing and fawning over Russia and Russian leaders since Krushchev, but for some reason suddenly coming to a skidding halt that unexpected November night in 2015.
Posted by WhatSheSaid
Member since May 2023
744 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:24 pm to
That amount of aid Ukraine blows through in a week.

What Brandon did is 100 times more destabilizing.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15483 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:31 pm to
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Bruh so you're saying you're cool with the American Military being actively involved with potential wars with China and Russia?


I’m not saying I’m cool with it, I’m just telling you the reality of the situation. The reality of the role the US plays on the global stage.

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But is it only if Trump says we should?


My point is that it doesn’t matter if it’s Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, they’re all going to do the same things in certain global conflicts, and that’s maintain the status quo the US had held since 1945. That foreign policy will never change until Russia and China change. They still believe we can play this land grab game, even though the rest of the world made the decision that we need to stop playing this game if we want to survive.

The difference in those presidents is how involved they want to get into other conflicts that really don’t threaten the security of the world. Like the Middle East for example. Us getting involved there actually made that region worse. We should have just left them alone. Some people have to be ruled by harsh dictators, and the Middle East are some of those people. They’re just too crazy to have a free Western mindset. Being the worlds police in those conflicts is wrong.

I think we should only be the worlds police when it comes to Russia and China, because of how much can go wrong if those two start creating conflicts with other countries.

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I'm assuming you guys are happy with Biden and Pelosi's stances on these then.


You should be able to figure out my answer for this above.
Posted by 2020_reVISION
Richmond,VA
Member since Dec 2020
3053 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Chump is all in on globohomo as long as kids have parental consent.


Don't get too excited.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23937 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 10:20 pm to
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Trump actively said he did more to support Ukraine than Obama ever did? Was he telling the truth?

When the Trump administration got past the impeachment thing, they sent valuable weapons that the Obama administration did not send. Some of those weapons were directly used to repel the advance toward Kiev at the beginning of the war.

Trump’s statement is fair. The weapons his administration sent turned out to be much more valuable than the aid that the Obama administration sent.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 2:48 am to
So the President can just not send money that Congress approves?

I don't see where Congress is voting each time biden sends more.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2180 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:50 am to
In this case, President Obama signed off on the Ukrainian aid.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12521 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 4:54 am to
So is Trump not Putin’s best friend anymore? This changes so much I can’t keep up .
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
13155 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 5:50 am to
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I’m just telling you the reality of the situation. The reality of the role the US plays on the global stage.


Like spreading LGBTQ propaganda to countries in Africa?
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 6:08 am to
Wonder why he would do that if Putin helped him get elected?
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15483 posts
Posted on 5/30/23 at 7:54 am to
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Like spreading LGBTQ propaganda to countries in Africa?


Well maybe if there weren’t so many gay people, like you in this country, then we wouldn’t have to worry about this.
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