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Did the Saints get League approval to have Gruden help with the offense?

Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:26 pm
Posted by TigerProphet
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:26 pm
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Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:22 pm to
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Did the Saints get League approval to have Gruden help with the offense?

Trial balloon launched to take draft picks.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/27/23 at 8:32 pm to
They are busy looking in Denver
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22055 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

You realize Carr was the league MVP under Gruden before getting injured right?


What year?

Carr has played in 15+ games every season since he was drafted. So when was he injured?

I’m not a Carr hater, just curios what you mean by MVP season?
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:15 pm to
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You realize Carr was the league MVP under Gruden before getting injured right?



You sure about that?

And I'm glad you're lapping a really good season 6 seasons ago (under Jack Del Rio in 2016, his third year in the league). Tell me you just read "Carr was an MVP candidate a few years ago" and are blindly regurgitating your assumption without telling me.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:50 am to
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You realize Carr was the league MVP under Gruden before getting injured right?

Gruden wasn't their coach in 2016

That was former LSU Head Coach Jack Del Rio, baw

Gruden was coaching Tennessee at that time, IIRC
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 6:51 am
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:04 am to
2019: 24th in points scored. If only the victor was the team with the most yards.

2020: 10th in points scored but Carr had at least one turnover in 6/7 losses he played fully in that year, including 3 multi-turnover games.

It's a lot more nuanced that simply looking at overall offensive rankings.

Carr has no consistency.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11917 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:22 am to
DVOA offense...
2019 Oakland - 9th
2020 LV - 14th

They were a good offense.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 11:16 am to
You’re debating a poster who has a dream of the saints sucking and leaving New Orleans so he can score points on the OT and political talk.

There’s no reasoning with certain posters here.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:08 pm to
Ah, so absolutely nothing to justify your claim except I’m outspoken about the dangers of NOLA and I don’t like Carr or Allen.

In other words, thanks for confirming you’re talking out of your blown out a-hole.

Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 12:17 pm to
Crazy how many Saints fans there are that want Carr to fail here, silly actually
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 1:10 pm to
Gruden resigned his position with the Raiders. I reckon he can do as he pleases
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:37 pm to
Been watching Carr for 9 years at this point.

You may not have been paying attention, but he's not all the sudden going to be a different player just because he has a fleur de lis on his helmet and wears black and gold now. He's going to be the same inconsistent, historically terrible in the red zone, bonehead turnover at the absolute worst time possible QB.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 2:49 pm to
He wins the division you leave ST for a year.

He doesn't I leave ST for a year?
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:14 pm to
Look at you, championing winning a division with a rookie QB in CAR, Baker Mayfield/Kyle Trask in TB, and Ridder in ATL.

I'm happy for you being so happy about Carr being the smartest kid in the alternative school.

ETA: I'll do playoff wins. If Carr wins a playoff game I'll deuce out for a year. If he doesn't, bye-bye goatmilker for a year to the date. Deal?
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
11917 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:26 pm to
Lame. Carrbage doesn't infer a division winning qb
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 4:05 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

I'll do playoff wins. If Carr wins a playoff game I'll deuce out for a year. If he doesn't, bye-bye goatmilker for a year to the date. Deal?


Sure your on. I'll take one for the team

Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:40 pm to
Yes it does. Brock fricking Osweiler won the AFCS a few years ago throwing more picks than TD if memory serves.

Good QB play and a division crown doesn’t necessarily go hand in hand.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3237 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:41 pm to
Let’s do it then.

Bookmarked.

Good luck.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 5/28/23 at 3:54 pm to
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