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re: Tommy John - Not If, but When?
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:58 pm to BigBinBR
Posted on 5/3/23 at 12:58 pm to BigBinBR
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Many kids are playing 2 to 3 times as many games as they were just a decade ago. And the travel ball kids are getting younger and younger. Baseball is almost year round for most of the south. That equates to more pitches thrown.
With more kids and more games you have weaker coaching to go around. Kids have screwed up mechanics that need to be closely watched. Plus kids throwing pitches that they shouldn’t at younger ages and you end up with problems down the line.
everything you just posted is false. already went over this. everything.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 1:33 pm to lsu777
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everything you just posted is false. already went over this. everything.
Please tell me oh baseball guru how more kids and more teams mean that the coaching (specifically pitching coaching) is better.
Tell me what is wrong about saying kids have screwed up mechanics that need to be watched? I guess you think kids always have great pitching motion.
Oh master of baseball please tell me how you know kids aren’t throwing sliders at 11 and curves at 12. Because it happens at multiple parks every single day.
If you don’t think that all of that contributes to earlier injuries I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 5/3/23 at 2:28 pm to lsu777
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everything you just posted is false. already went over this. everything.
Love your passion for the game. But, there has been tons of research on pitching injuries over the past several decades that indicate the post you responded is indeed correct, just not complete.
Overuse is a major factor.
Biomechanics is a major factor.
Increased velocity is a major factor.
Strength is a contributing factor as well.
Depending on the individual, one of those 4 factors can override the ligament and failure occurs.
Example. A player can have great mechanics, throw at a high velocity and be strong in measurables that are indicative of protective health for the pitcher, but still suffer a UCL injury because of over use. The ligament sustains microtears over time that often are asymptomatic until enough damage is done that a larger tear occurs or a complete tear.
Surgeons will tell you that when they open up the arm of a teenager for Tommy John that the ligament looks vastly different than one of an adult player having TJ. Why? The amount of use over time for the adult player.
So, a player can seemingly do everything they can to prevent injury, but if they are pitching at close to maximum effort almost year round, they are putting a lot of miles on their arm. It is going to catch up with a lot of them.
Conversely, many younger players can be deficient in several of those risk factors. They can throw too much, be going through a growth spurt and not strong enough to support the velocity they are throwing and their mechanics are bad. It doesn't take much to tear the ligament on these players.
However, it can not be dismissed that the increase in the number of pitches is a major contributor to the rise in injuries.
This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 2:30 pm
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