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Russian High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) weapons.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:31 pm
Slow day. This might spice things up.
1/8 There's a narrative that the US is militarily superior to Russia (and probably also China). Many people in the West and particularly those living in NATO countries take comfort from this. But it may not be true. Let's leave aside for now the question of whether...
2/8 Russia has a larger, more advanced, modern and capable nuclear and anti-ballistic missile fleet (which it almost certainly does but which creates many hot collars) and touch on a subject that very few people are aware of and which the media almost never talks about. What...
3/8 if Russia could effectively at will wreck the entire electrical and electronic infrastructure - every single device, every single piece of equipment - of the entire continental United States, including (almost) all of its military and including ballistic missile...
4 through 8 in thread.
Chamberlain's Ghost
Key Judgments.
From Dr. Peter Vincent Pry
Executive Director
EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security
January 2021
1/8 There's a narrative that the US is militarily superior to Russia (and probably also China). Many people in the West and particularly those living in NATO countries take comfort from this. But it may not be true. Let's leave aside for now the question of whether...
2/8 Russia has a larger, more advanced, modern and capable nuclear and anti-ballistic missile fleet (which it almost certainly does but which creates many hot collars) and touch on a subject that very few people are aware of and which the media almost never talks about. What...
3/8 if Russia could effectively at will wreck the entire electrical and electronic infrastructure - every single device, every single piece of equipment - of the entire continental United States, including (almost) all of its military and including ballistic missile...
4 through 8 in thread.
Chamberlain's Ghost
Key Judgments.
From Dr. Peter Vincent Pry
Executive Director
EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security
January 2021
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Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:37 pm to LookSquirrel
It's hard to believe the US military has any huge and decisive advantage over China or Russia in a pure technological sense. The Chinese and Russians have had a shite ton of college students in our best STEM universities for decades and both governments have obtained a lot of technology from US corporations as a condition of allowing US corporations in China and Russia.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:37 pm to LookSquirrel
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Slow day.
Not for USSC.
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There is currently a rather large US Strategic Command exercise underway involving at least 10 B-52H, at least 16 tankers and an E-4B Nightwatch, all from USAF Global Strike Command. There are also four US Navy E-6B TACAMOs airborne
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:40 pm to LookSquirrel
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:44 pm to LookSquirrel
Doesn't the US have these subs, each capable of destroying Russia, I mean TOTAL DESTRUCTION, several times over.
I also mean EACH.
It amazes me to think how much money all of us spend just to get along.
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:50 pm to Timeoday
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Doesn't the US have these subs, each capable of destroying Russia, I mean TOTAL DESTRUCTION, several times over.
According to Dr. Peter Vincent Pry
Executive Director EMP Task Force on National and Homeland Security, that would include our subs.
including (almost) all of its military and including ballistic missile...
4/8 submarines at sea in a single strike or a series of closely co-ordinated strikes and the United States was unable to defend itself against such a strike?
As it turns out, that may well be exactly the case.
In January 2021 the US Govt published its own report...
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:50 pm to Timeoday
Former Navy here. Our subs are our best deterrent and can virtually take out all of Russia's capability to wage war.
Also want to point out that our surface ships are equipped to manage an EMP blast without any issues. I would suspect our ground forces and equipment are as well.
That said, civilian protection of power grids virtually does not exist and if they emp'd us, it would be chaos within 3 days. Imagine folks in Houston who are used to getting food at McD's and have no food in their homes not able to eat. Wild west...
Also want to point out that our surface ships are equipped to manage an EMP blast without any issues. I would suspect our ground forces and equipment are as well.
That said, civilian protection of power grids virtually does not exist and if they emp'd us, it would be chaos within 3 days. Imagine folks in Houston who are used to getting food at McD's and have no food in their homes not able to eat. Wild west...
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:52 pm to LSUbest
quote:
Not for USSC.
What's up with that?
No pun intended.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:53 pm to LookSquirrel
HEMP?
Farout, man!
Farout, man!
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:57 pm to scurvydawg
I’m almost positive fiber optic cable systems are not sensitive to EMP or gamma radiation. I’ve talked to some guys with ATT about this before and they were telling me about it.
New grid technology is concerned about this from the stand point of solar flares mostly.
New grid technology is concerned about this from the stand point of solar flares mostly.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:58 pm to LookSquirrel
If we go hot war with Russia and china or an combination
Regardless of winner / loser
Rank and file quality of life is going to be loser
Regardless of winner / loser
Rank and file quality of life is going to be loser
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:58 pm to LookSquirrel
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What's up with that?
IDK, but why do we know if it's really something?
https://mobile.twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/1647650760354562048
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:00 pm to scurvydawg
FTR... Only things with power going through it when an emp detonates will be damaged.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:01 pm to scurvydawg
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Also want to point out that our surface ships are equipped to manage an EMP blast without any issues. I would suspect our ground forces and equipment are as well.
The report goes on to say this.
Russia has “Super-EMP” weapons specialized for HEMP attack that potentially generate 100,000
volts/meter or higher, greatly exceeding the U.S. military hardening standard (50,000 volts/meter).
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That said, civilian protection of power grids virtually does not exist and if they emp'd us, it would be chaos within 3 days. Imagine folks in Houston who are used to getting food at McD's and have no food in their homes not able to eat. Wild west...
It also details how they could limit the affects to target specific targets, unlike the blanket EMP, more commonly known.
That said, I hope you are right and the good doctor, of "Homeland Security", is wrong.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:03 pm to LookSquirrel
I read a report once that stated, in general, older vehicles are better against EMP. They rely less on electronics.
We need to harden the nation against EMP issues. This is part of my platform.
We need to harden the nation against EMP issues. This is part of my platform.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:04 pm to LookSquirrel
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In January 2021 the US Govt published its own report...
They be tryin' to raise sum mo mony based on yo fear.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:07 pm to LSUbest
"Was pretty surprised when I hopped on adsb. Those guys are pretending to nuke the world right now. There's even a propaganda plane over Erie, PA and lake Erie right now."
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:07 pm to Tusksup
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Only things with power going through it when an emp detonates will be damaged.
I have read that the magnetic field could be strong enough to generate current strong enough to over amp dormant circuits also.
It's all based on capacity, shielding and proximity.
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:08 pm to LookSquirrel
Russia struggled to invade Ukraine at the beginning with old tanks and equipment.
This does not mean they are weak, but I certainly don’t think they are superior. But they do have a lot of nukes, so…
This does not mean they are weak, but I certainly don’t think they are superior. But they do have a lot of nukes, so…
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:10 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:
If we go hot war with Russia and china or an combination
Regardless of winner / loser
Rank and file quality of life is going to be loser
Duh
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