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re: Parents of Michigan high school shooter Ethan Crumbley will go to trial, judges rule
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 pm to John88
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 pm to John88
I’m highschool, i knew where every gun was. I could get in the gun safe. I could access weapons easily.
That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:39 pm to Fat and Happy
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I could get in the gun safe. I could access weapons easily.
quote:
That is not my parents fault.
Well, you’re wrong here. So…
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:44 pm to Fat and Happy
because I'm willing to bet the issues that the child was exhibiting was more than just the day before the incident happened, and the parents disregarded it.
drawing pictures and writing about the voices and help me is not something that just starts the day before they act out violently. the fact they bought the kid a gun, despite the warning signs is 100% on them, and they should be held accountable.
adding - thx right here is why the parents should be held accountable iMHO
drawing pictures and writing about the voices and help me is not something that just starts the day before they act out violently. the fact they bought the kid a gun, despite the warning signs is 100% on them, and they should be held accountable.
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Days before the shooting, a teacher allegedly saw Ethan Crumbley researching ammunition in class, and the school contacted his parents but they didn't respond, according to prosecutors. But Jennifer Crumbley did text her son, writing, "lol, I'm not mad at you, you have to learn not to get caught," according to prosecutors.
Hours before the shooting, prosecutors said a teacher saw a note on Ethan Crumbley's desk that was "a drawing of a semi-automatic handgun pointing at the words, 'The thoughts won't stop, help me.' In another section of the note was a drawing of a bullet with the following words above that bullet, 'Blood everywhere.'"
The Crumbleys were called to the school over the incident, and said they'd get their son counseling, but they did not take him home, prosecutors said.
adding - thx right here is why the parents should be held accountable iMHO
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:46 pm to Fat and Happy
quote:
I’m highschool, i knew where every gun was. I could get in the gun safe. I could access weapons easily.
That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
When he exhibited some serious red flag behaviors, the parents refused to get him help. They refused to take him to a mental health facility.
And if I remember correctly, they also gifted him the gun that he used to kill his classmates. Knowing he was fantasizing about harming them.
That’s a big, big difference in your parents have guns in the house and you know how to access them without their knowledge.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:55 pm to Fat and Happy
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I’m highschool, i knew where every gun was. I could get in the gun safe. I could access weapons easily.
That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
Lets see... did you have a fascination with torturing and beheading animals. Did you keep the heads in jar in your bedroom. Did you discuss hallucinations and fears of demons in your home? Did your teachers find your notebook fantasizing about killing people? Did you practice making molotov cocktails at home? During these events did your parents buy a you a handgun?
This wasn't simply the case of otherwise normal acting young man losing his shite one day and taking his fathers hand gun from the gun safe. To that point though, if you allow your minor children access to firearms you should damn well be aware of their mental state and take precautions if need be. These folks were over the top in their negligence and even appeared to be planning to go on the run after the incident.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:50 pm to Fat and Happy
quote:are you retarded?
I’m highschool, i knew where every gun was. I could get in the gun safe. I could access weapons easily.
That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:28 pm to Fat and Happy
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Why is it the parents fault exactly?
Because they clearly knew he was crazy and still gave him a gun. And it's not a case of a kid breaking taking a gun without the parent's knowledge. No, they actively bought and gave him his own personal gun. Also, they went on the run after hearing they might be charged. This isn't what innocent people do.
I am not saying parents should automatically be responsible for everything a kid does, but they shouldn't be automatically immune either. If negligence can be shown (especially in something serious like homicide) then they absolutely should be charged. This might teach parents to keep their little punks in line. In fact, every fricking car-jacking 16 year old's parents needs to be in jail.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 7:42 pm to Fat and Happy
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Why is it the parents fault exactly?
has nothing to do with the kid accessing his parents weapons. you obviously didn't even read the details of the case.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:30 pm to Fat and Happy
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That is not my parents fault. That’s called me being resourceful.
Why is it the parents fault exactly?
These parents didn’t make any attempt to lock guns in a safe away from their child. Were your parents also notified several times of your mental illness and homicidal behavior? Did they then fail to seek help or at least make attempts to reduce the chance you might mow down your classmates with a gun?
Either you’re an idiot or being purposefully obtuse. This is clearly a rather unique case in which the parents were negligent and will probably be found culpable.
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