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re: Miller can't shoot, definitely can't play defense and he turns the ball over.

Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 10:56 pm to
He didn’t hit a shot from the field tonight. Not one!
Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:01 pm to
At Illinois kid was a killer. Now season is over I wonder if we are going to hear about an injury he has been fighting all year. Just wondering.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:02 pm to
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At Illinois kid was a killer.


Wrong
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:06 pm to
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That’s a mediocre eFG%. Crazy that we’re considering a 3-8 game or whatever Adam shot as good.
my point was that yesterday, he has the best FG% of the starters and the best eFG% on the team, but he was singled out.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:06 pm to
I don’t shite on every other player. I think Hill and Justice Williams were obviously not SEC point guards to begin with but that’s it. The offense we run is trash and made our guards look worse than they were. Miller had a poor shooting year but again in a terrible setup. On top of that our guys are poorly coached on the most fundamental level.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:13 pm to
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my point was that yesterday, he has the best FG% of the starters and the best eFG% on the team, but he was singled out.
Dude has been shite on the entire year. And I hate that for LSU players.

Coming off an ACL, never got to see him last season. Did see some from him at Illinois, not the best but improvable. To judge him now is really a weird space IMO. Transfer, ACL, new coach.
Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:16 pm to
Let me rephrase that. Kid held his own.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:19 pm to
You have to put Millers season into context. We played 5 guards heavy minutes who all had distinctly different skill sets yet our coach couldn’t find a way for any of them to be efficient or successful. We can’t keep deflecting blame to players in every possible situation while ignoring the one common thread through all of this.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:20 pm to
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Dude has been shite on the entire year. And I hate that for LSU players.


Everyone on this team has gotten their fair share of criticism. The issue with Adam is when you have all the casuals who only know of him from how highly the media and WW spoke of him when you underperform you’re going to get the worst of it.

I think it is extremely fair to criticize him, like every player and member of the basketball staff. Defending him and creating all these exceptions is nothing but coping.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:23 pm to
The praise from Wade was pre-injury and he didn’t get to play for Wade. I’m fairly certain you would’ve seen a much different result if that same coach were still here.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:23 pm to
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yet our coach couldn’t find a way for any of them to be efficient or successful.


Adam was given plenty of opportunities to succeed and largely failed. I’m not upset about obvious bad scheming or bad coaching. What upsets me is taking low IQ contested jumpers from 3 and midrange with plenty of time left on the clock, ample turnovers, and missing wide open catch and shoot threes.

I don’t care how bad of a coach CMM is and how shite our scheme is, missing wide open is inexcusable
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:24 pm to
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The praise from Wade was pre-injury


In practice.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:27 pm to
That’s coaching, what you allow you promote. Again we played 5 guards and a total of 7 perimeter players during the year so anytime a player was doing something the coach didn’t like he could’ve easily sat his arse. A- none of them were coached not to play that way. B- a lot of the bad shots we took this year were due to late clock situations from a bad offensive design or bad shots from players being put in bad position.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:30 pm to
“In practice”

Again, pre injury and he never played for the guy. You seem to want to select certain facts that fit a narrative instead of looking at them all.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:33 pm to
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That’s coaching, what you allow you promote. Again we played 5 guards and a total of 7 perimeter players during the year so anytime a player was doing something the coach didn’t like he could’ve easily sat his arse. A- none of them were coached not to play that way. B- a lot of the bad shots we took this year were due to late clock situations from a bad offensive design or bad shots from players being put in bad position.


I feel like this implies something. Perhaps maybe the talent on the roster wasn't as good as predicted? I bet CMM would have gladly set Miller's arse on the bench but who would take his spot? Our guards are abysmal. I'm tired of this "we were a bubble team" bullshite that gets spewed. This team sucks from a combination of poor coaching AND sub par players. TBH, KJ is the only player who is a starter in the SEC caliber.

News flash: you can be PREDICTED to be better than you actually end up being because your players aren't as good as they were PREDICTED to be. Go figure. I do think we could be ever so slightly better with better coaching but our players are also not good.

And again, I'm aware of the bad offensive sets draining the clock but this team also took a lot of bad shots early in the shot clock.

Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:34 pm to
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I think it is extremely fair to criticize him, like every player and member of the basketball staff. Defending him and creating all these exceptions is nothing but coping.

I think it's both from your thoughts, but "extremely fair to criticize" is a bit for me.

When you have so many moving parts, which Coach Mc is excused for, then why have a guy coming off an ACL and never played a minute at LSU in regulation prior to that injury all of a sudden be the dire of the fanbase.

Adam could be a shell of himself, jacking up bricks, etc. Then coach needs to be better. And that's where the problem lies IMO.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 11:36 pm
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:35 pm to
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“In practice”

Again, pre injury and he never played for the guy. You seem to want to select certain facts that fit a narrative instead of looking at them all.


No I'm looking at all the facts. The fact is that Adam was doing tremendous in PRACTICE. You do not know whether or not this would have continued into the season. He could have played amazing or he could have been bad.

Yes I know he never played for Wade! That's why I'm saying that you can't say he was going to be good! You don't fricking know. What I'm judging him on is what I saw at Illinois and what I'm seeing for LSU this year. IN A GAME, NOT IN PRACTICE.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
51508 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:37 pm to
That doesn’t make sense because like I said we had 4 other guards and 2 more perimeter players who saw a lot of minutes this season. The excuse that we just happened to be the only team where everybody was overrated also makes no sense. Again every of the many problems get deflected to the players while the common thread through all of it gets a pass. It just doesn’t wash, it can’t always be everybody else’s fault and the whole world was wrong so that coach Mac can be absolved.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:38 pm to
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No I'm looking at all the facts. The fact is that Adam was doing tremendous in PRACTICE. You do not know whether or not this would have continued into the season. He could have played amazing or he could have been bad.

Yes I know he never played for Wade! That's why I'm saying that you can't say he was going to be good! You don't fricking know. What I'm judging him on is what I saw at Illinois and what I'm seeing for LSU this year. IN A GAME, NOT IN PRACTICE.
If you don't throw up an Allen Iverson gif, I'm going to be pissed.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:39 pm to
Perfect example was him not playing Phillips tonight after what he did in the second half last night. That kind of thing went on all year in literally every game to some degree. The guy is in so far over his head I feel sorry for him.
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