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re: Stolen History - Lifting the Veil of Deception (Doc Part 1 - Introduction)

Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:53 am to
quote:

there is a school of thought, and moderately provable, that all the great masterpiece paintings were photos that were then colored


So prove it.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:01 pm to
do you know how film works?

it's not complex, nitric acid + silver = photo reactive compound

why don't you provide some useful info?

a discussion, not accusations.

do you know what a camera obscura is? the fact is was common use item? that painters doing landscapes would put a canvas in it, and draw would the outlines?

Hell, even Da Vinci talks about it, ever read any of his translated stuff?
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:04 pm to
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So prove it.


So you know for a fact that these “paintings” are real?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:05 pm to
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do you know how film works?


Yes.

quote:

t's not complex, nitric acid + silver = photo reactive compound


OK. So what?

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a discussion, not accusations.


What accusations? You said it was provable. I asked you to prove it.

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do you know what a camera obscura is? the fact is was common use item? that painters doing landscapes would put a canvas in it, and draw would the outlines?

Hell, even Da Vinci talks about it, ever read any of his translated stuff?


Non sequiturs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:11 pm to
Is Liberator going to post a video of what he declares is proof of a giant again and then pretend like he didn't once I find the movie the shot came from?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:19 pm to
LOVE olde canal-discussions...because none of them make a whit of sense.

(same subject: Jon Levi takes a whack at some G00gle-Earf canal-talk
Canals Included (America for Sale))

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so, moving right along, lets look at the canals of Phoenix

canals

In 1867 a scheming ex-Confederate soldier named Jack Swilling responded with the Swilling Irrigation and Canal Company. Using Mexican labor, he retrenched many of the old Hohokam canals. Alfalfa for horses and grain for persons soon ?owed from the Salt River Valley to the forts. So responsive was the soil that miners and migrants, safe from attack, grabbed shovels and went what was soon called “canal crazy.”

so there was a massive civilization that abandoned the canals in 1400, but where did they go?


The 1400s?? But...but...Columbus didn't "discover" America till 1493!


So, in this PTB yarn, they really amped-up the laziness. We are told "migrants grabbed shovels and went what was soon called 'canal crazy.'” HA!! Are they serious?? They don't even care.

Phoenix, AZ?? 1867?? (even before the Egyptian parts of the Grand Canyon were cleaned out of gold and artifacts and the area declared VERBOTEN!)

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apparently they are still finding canals to this day
over 500 miles of it so far

what happened to this civilization?


Cool find. Exactly. Whose original surveying, tech, and canal were they to begin with? And age? (reason #99 why National Parks are NOT about "land preservation".) We can't even explore our own country's history.

This wild Phoenix Canal story...

Brought to you (and scripted) by our sponsors... the same people who "founded," claimed, or..."inherited" LOST & FOUND America (and its Olde World, mud-flooded empty cities.)


Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:29 pm to
silverpoint

the fine lines are drawn in this. ON MANY Old Paintings

a simple chemical analysis could tell us if it was pure silver, or nitric silver

unfortunately, I have no paintings of that age to submit, hence "moderately provable"

if you want to send me a painting from the golden age of painting, I will surely pay for the analysis
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:34 pm to
I love the canal one, its so hard for people to come to grips with

that the city of pheonix was built on ruins of a massive civilization

and they generally admit it, but ignore who, want, and how

I had an agruement over it once, and the counter argue was indians couldn't have made them as shovels weren't discovered yet

Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
6952 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:37 pm to
If you control society and a video of a giant that clearly looks like an 1800s film video leaks out, then just put it in a movie. That seems like an easy out. Despite that they must've had the best editing effects ever, and there's no sign of being a modern recreation, simple people will lap it up.

Show me any modern effects creation of 100 year old film from anywhere, Hollywood, anywhere that looks as legitimate as this. That passes this well with zero sign of the modern touch. Show me one.

LINK
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:41 pm to
giant proof?

the fact I had to wade my why thru 1+ pages of snopes,politifact,etc its a hoax and use the wayback machine because the original article is scrubbed, to get this, tells ya a lot, too

found another

giants again

and you know why the NY sports team is called the giants, right?

more giant proof?
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2755 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:47 pm to
what if the very institutions founded to "preserve" were in fact, founded actually to deceive/destroy

- The Smithsonian
- National "Parks"
- The Antarctica Treaty of 1959 (CAN WE TALK ABOUT THIS?)
- NASA
- SETI
- etc.

All funded by the tax-payer. LMAO!

This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:57 pm
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:49 pm to
these guys are the source for the original men in black,

they would show up, claim the farmer that dug the bones up made them,
take them, and threaten prosecution for fraud, and federal time if they didn't keep their mouths shut

some things never change

and yes, with taxpayer money
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:51 pm to
but that would mean orgs like the CDC, NIH, and ...

oh, never mind

Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:55 pm to
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But that’s the thing, I’ve done basic analysis.


A 5-minute wiki/G00gle search does NOT qualify as a "basic analysis."

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You posted the picture of Paris and I was Like, huh what’s that.

Then I found pictures of them building it all.

Then you told me to look vanilla skies and I can only Find references to a Tom Cruise movies and stolen history websites.



FWIW, IF you are content to go just one or two pages in on a G00gle" search (an algorithm which btw is geared to BURY the actual substantial results so deep that 95% won't or don't search page 3), you'll *only* find Tom Cruise "Vanilla Skies" results and will not find the info.

I'll give you a bit of a Mulligan here.

There are many MANY researchers delving into this subject and sharing their evidence of an alternative reality/history. I'm just sharing it with TD.

IF you begin researching the researchers work, you may realize the degree of Timeline deception has been extensive (thanks to a controlled academe and "trusted" institutions.)

On the Paris question I don't know what you're referring to.

Your default reaction is pretty much: "Naaah. Impossible." Just admit it. You're not alone. I get it. But I'd respect the honesty. You ca't just drive-by hit this subject and immediately buy the premise.

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You’re not talking about rewriting history, but rewriting the present.


ANDDDDD....Sammy runs off the rails.

The whole point to this exercise of challenging the "History" is the irony...that IT is History (re-written!) And...a "present" that especially since 2020 (even *you* must surely concede) is proven to be scripted bulls**t and lying narratives.

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You’re not talking about rewriting history, but rewriting the present.

People would have had to lie to their children about these things.

Every book prior would have to have been rounded up and destroyed. Meaning private libraries raided.



Ok -- *now* we're getting someplace; I understand what you're argument is.

It is said information can be lost/adopted within a generation or two.

Those who did live during the time of vandalizing the events at-the-time *did* tell their children the truth. However, didn't the government create the Public School system which in turn created a *NEW* common "historical" narrative for children and young people?

Others who insisted on relating the truth and observations were ostracized. Or told they were "mistaken," were "hallucinating." According to yet other scary accounts, objectors of the lying narrative were arrested sent away for "corrective measures" at "Insane Asylums" starting in the 1850s. NOT gonna be in an "History" book.

The degree of pressure to conform and the era's oppression is NOT recorded by the "narrative" for obvious reasons. It is all too bizarre, abstract or ridiculous to consider.

People have done the research to provide pretty heavy evidence to support the coercion to believe certain info and "history" (didn't we all just experience this kind of gaslighting & censorship in 2020-2021??)

Sorry. Way too long a post.
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:58 pm to
re: "Giants"

The dude never seems to want to consider context. Or linking to posts.

They demand explanations yet don't really GAS about premises or subjects.
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:59 pm to
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Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:03 pm to
If you find giant bones you get destroyed, laughed at and ignored. But if it's a bone of an ancient megalithic creature you get millions of dollars and front page news and museum display. Could they really fantastically reconstruct entire ancient megalithic creature skeletons from a single relatively small bone fragment? Was there suddenly in the 1800s a mad rush to discover these ancient megalithic creatures that weren't previously known to exist at all?
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1140 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Others who insisted on relating the truth and observations were ostracized. Or told they were "mistaken," were "hallucinating." According to yet other scary accounts, objectors of the lying narrative were arrested sent away for "corrective measures" at "Insane Asylums" starting in the 1850s. NOT gonna be in an "History" book.



almost 1/3 of population the state of NYS were in said asylums, and then we have the indian schools, where, from 1820's, children were taken from their parents/tribe for re-programming

thousands of native children that lost their culture, to have it replaced with alcohol drug dependence that still carries on today.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
71063 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:06 pm to
I’m asking you this.


The building in front of the Eiffel Tower.

The “narrative” says they were built for a world fair and then torn down when they stopped having world exposes.

We know for instance they weren’t there in 1940.

So they were around for about 50 years or as you say they were around way longer as some Sort of ancient one world civilization.

But when they were torn down there were thousands of Parisians old enough to remember either when they were built or if they were there way longer than the alleged date they were built.

Why would those people lie? And this is recent enough that the generation in talking about is would be a good many of our great grandparents. Not that far removed.

Why would they lie to their kids about the world expo?
Posted by Liberator
Revelation 20:10-12
Member since Jul 2020
9071 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:09 pm to
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I love the canal one, its so hard for people to come to grips with

that the city of pheonix was built on ruins of a massive civilization

and they generally admit it, but ignore who, want, and how


Yup.

Because of the Timeline snafu, Tech snafu, Settlement snafu, Identity...of advanced civilizations faaar before the supposed Europeans.

And that is how the whole re-write of the narrative confuses even the most brilliant people. They can't let go of the hardened dogma we've learned as young pods.

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I had an agruement over it once, and the counter argue was indians couldn't have made them as shovels weren't discovered yet




But...but...ONLY primitive Indians lived in AZ! Cuz...muh-History book sez so!!....Just like muh-Land Bridge!!

Pyramids. Found on every continent.(no shovels found on site either)

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