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re: Hiatus in Global Warming: The New Pause lengthens again: 101 months and counting …

Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:57 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/4/23 at 8:57 am to
We are living in the Quaternary Period. The Quaternary is an ice age comprised of >20 110K-yr stadial-interstadial cycles. The max-min climatic temperatures are fairly regular as is each cycle length. Ice core data shows CO2 and climate temp tracking closely. Higher temps are associated with higher atmospheric CO2 levels.

"Scientists" therefore claim interstadial warming is d/t CO2 forcing, and results from atmospheric loading secondary to volcanic eruptions.

Meanwhile, Henry's Law (a scientific law actually is settled science, btw) holds that partial pressure of gas contained in liquid increases (solubility decreases) as the temperature of the liquid increases. If open to the atmosphere, as temp rises, the gas will leave solution and enter the atmosphere. 93% of terrestrial CO2 is contained in our oceans ... i.e., a gas contained in a liquid.

So the volcano eruption CO2 climate-driving hypothesis is problematic for two reasons:

(1) Volcanic eruptions are random. Our quaternary climate cycles are not.

(2) If CO2 was the climate driver as claimed, volcanic CO2 emissions would warm the earth, oceans included. As the oceans warmed, they would release more CO2 which would cause more warming, which would release further oceanic CO2, which would cause more warming, etc. If CO2 was the climatic driver as claimed, once warming commenced, there would be no off-switch.

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The sun is not an absolute constant.
110K-yr cycles would explain exactly the correlation of CO2 and temperature variance observed in ice cores. As the sun warms oceans, more CO2 enters the atmosphere. As it cools, CO2 reenters the oceans, leaving the atmosphere.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 10:02 am to
a climate scientist view...

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42757 posts
Posted on 2/4/23 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

We are living in the Quaternary Period.


quote:

If open to the atmosphere, as temp rises, the gas will leave solution and enter the atmosphere. 93% of terrestrial CO2 is contained in our oceans ... i.e., a gas contained in a liquid.

So the volcano eruption CO2 climate-driving hypothesis is problematic for two reasons:

(1) Volcanic eruptions are random. Our quaternary climate cycles are not.

(2) If CO2 was the climate driver as claimed, volcanic CO2 emissions would warm the earth, oceans included. As the oceans warmed, they would release more CO2 which would cause more warming, which would release further oceanic CO2, which would cause more warming, etc. If CO2 was the climatic driver as claimed, once warming commenced, there would be no off-switch.

Thank you - I have heard the fact that the warming climate precedes the CO2 build-up, but never knew the actual reason why. My meterorlogical prowess is negligible, so this relationship never struck me.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11410 posts
Posted on 2/5/23 at 6:14 am to
quote:

We are living in the Quaternary Period. The Quaternary is an ice age comprised of >20 110K-yr stadial-interstadial cycles. The max-min climatic temperatures are fairly regular as is each cycle length. Ice core data shows CO2 and climate temp tracking closely. Higher temps are associated with higher atmospheric CO2 levels.

"Scientists" therefore claim interstadial warming is d/t CO2 forcing, and results from atmospheric loading secondary to volcanic eruptions.

Meanwhile, Henry's Law (a scientific law actually is settled science, btw) holds that partial pressure of gas contained in liquid increases (solubility decreases) as the temperature of the liquid increases. If open to the atmosphere, as temp rises, the gas will leave solution and enter the atmosphere. 93% of terrestrial CO2 is contained in our oceans ... i.e., a gas contained in a liquid.

So the volcano eruption CO2 climate-driving hypothesis is problematic for two reasons:

(1) Volcanic eruptions are random. Our quaternary climate cycles are not.

(2) If CO2 was the climate driver as claimed, volcanic CO2 emissions would warm the earth, oceans included. As the oceans warmed, they would release more CO2 which would cause more warming, which would release further oceanic CO2, which would cause more warming, etc. If CO2 was the climatic driver as claimed, once warming commenced, there would be no off-switch.

---

The sun is not an absolute constant.
110K-yr cycles would explain exactly the correlation of CO2 and temperature variance observed in ice cores. As the sun warms oceans, more CO2 enters the atmosphere. As it cools, CO2 reenters the oceans, leaving the atmosphere.


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