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re: Mind-blowing: The Economic Consequences of Being Denied an Abortion
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:18 pm to High Desert
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:18 pm to High Desert
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Fair enough. Alas, there really isn't much of a debate about whether or not we can allow abortions at 1 day.
There isn't? Maybe I'm missing something.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:18 pm to the_truman_shitshow
I mean there’s no denying it. I hope you’re ready to increase taxes to pay for it. But hey, you saved all the "babies"
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:Well, are there a bunch of women out there aware they're pregnant on day 1?
There isn't? Maybe I'm missing something.
If we're talking about the morning after pill, I happen to not really care about someone using it. Other than that though, there aren't exactly lines at PP to stop 2 day old pregnancies.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:20 pm to High Desert
quote:The problem is that there are MORE people who would prohibit that one-day medical abortion than the number who would support the Far Right boogyman of "partial birth abortion."
there really isn't much of a debate about whether or not we can allow abortions at 1 day.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:20 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:I can save us a shitload in taxes by simply euthanizing every child in a home drawing welfare.
I mean there’s no denying it. I hope you’re ready to increase taxes to pay for it. But hey, you saved all the "babies"
Seems kind of like a bad idea though.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:21 pm to High Desert
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I think it's fair to say that the OP line about it creating "financial distress" is what I'm referring to.
Focusing on the latter statement in your post. Clearly there's a reason we separate these ideas.
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I'd be a traveling mother fricker with no kids.
Can confirm.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:21 pm to AggieHank86
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I have absolutely ZERO difficultly understanding your viewpoint. You view every genetically-unique human organism as having some great, inherent value, and that view shapes your analysis of the abortion issue. Given that underlying premise, your viewpoint makes perfect sense.
I appreciate you setting the record straight and acknowledging my viewpoint. You are correct here.
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Why are you unable to grasp that not everyone shares your viewpoint and that many people do not see any "evil" whatsoever in the early termination of an unwanted pregnancy. That THIS viewpoint makes perfect sense, if one does NOT accept the premise that a human zygote or blastocyst or embryo has some unique, special value?
In the context of a discourse which involves parties who either share or disagree on the viewpoint that a human, at the point of conception and beyond, is a "living" human being with inherent value by virtue of holding "life"/soul/consciousness, I acknowledge that this particular issue can be reduced down to a matter of one's personal belief. On the notion of "superiority", one is not justified, nor in the right, to consider oneself superior to the other for simply not agreeing with him on the matter. And I define 'superiority' here as simply 'worth' as a human being. The language that I use to make my declarations in stating my personal beliefs can certainly be interpreted as promoting self-superiority but how else are we to communicate our beliefs if without inflamed passion? - to do otherwise would be to deny our human nature, especially as it pertains to a discussion surrounding a topic which cannot be argued by strict data points and objective facts. As I mentioned before, it's a belief - and hence, a faith, and therefore a component of religion. I have mine and you have yours, apparently.
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I have never felt that my viewpoint makes me inherently or morally superior to you. Why do you insist that those who do not share your viewpoint are inherently, morally inferior?
This is a fallacious statement because morality involves being either right or wrong. It is a binary issue. If you are on the other side of the aisle, then by virtue of me being on the opposite side of the aisle is a statement in and of itself that I am "morally superior". You say the same thing about yourself by simply standing on the opposite side of me.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:21 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Welcome to Earth.
We tell obese people they are healthy and women get abortions because kids don’t raise themselves.
Society is fricked and there’s no going back.
It happened to the Romans and we are next.
We tell obese people they are healthy and women get abortions because kids don’t raise themselves.
Society is fricked and there’s no going back.
It happened to the Romans and we are next.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:22 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Um, we had actual state legislatures get majority votes with nearly 100% Dem support removing ALL limits on abortion right up to the baby traveling down the canal.
The problem is that there are MORE people who would prohibit that one-day abortion than the number who would support the Far Right boogyman of "partial birth abortion."
What the frick are you talking about? It's not even close.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:22 pm to High Desert
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This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:22 pm to High Desert
quote:
Well, are there a bunch of women out there aware they're pregnant on day 1?
If we're talking about the morning after pill, I happen to not really care about someone using it. Other than that though, there aren't exactly lines at PP to stop 2 day old pregnancies.
Sure. But then this necessitates a stopping point. And then we go in circles. The mother not knowing at one day or two days isn't all that relevant when discussing the morality of the act.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:23 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:Abortion is not birth control. Sorry.
I mean there’s no denying it. I hope you’re ready to increase taxes to pay for it. But hey, you saved all the "babies"
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:23 pm to the_truman_shitshow
quote:meh. I believe that vanilla is superior to chocolate, and you believe the opposite. That does not make either of us immoral.
If you are on the other side of the aisle, then by virtue of me being on the opposite side of the aisle is a statement in and of itself that I am "morally superior". You say the same thing about yourself by simply standing on the opposite side of me.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:25 pm to High Desert
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I can save us a shitload in taxes by simply euthanizing every child in a home drawing welfare.
Seems kind of like a bad idea though.
You’re talking about killing wanted already born viable people though, I’m not at all.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:26 pm to NC_Tigah
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Abortion is not birth control. Sorry.
There’s no difference really.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:26 pm to AggieHank86
It doesn't matter how they "view" it. It's evil.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:29 pm to DavidTheGnome
yea, no mention of the financial burden to have babies out of wedlock that get on the gov tit
yet i have to buy a license to go fishing
yet i have to buy a license to go fishing
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:30 pm to AggieHank86
quote:Late term abortion is the term you're searching for.
The problem is that there are MORE people who would prohibit that one-day medical abortion than the number who would support the Far Right boogyman of "partial birth abortion."
Which Democrat Congress members have come out against Late-Term Abortions?
Which members of the Administration have come out against Late-Term Abortions?
List the Democrats who labeled Gov Ralph Northum a ghoul for saying a live baby born during a failed late term abortion should be laid on a metal table and allowed to slowly die there.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:31 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:After 22 weeks there is one hell of a difference, really.
There’s no difference really.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:33 pm to High Desert
quote:I make a distinction between real people and the hyper-partisans that the primary system sends to our statehouses, but few states allow elective abortions in the birth canal. In fact, only six allow abortion after 24 weeks.
What the frick are you talking about? It's not even close.
Those votes mostly involved pure fear of the slippery slope, IMO.
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