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re: trump lawsuit vs clinton is frivolous.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:21 pm to BBONDS25
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:21 pm to BBONDS25
I’m not so concerned with the merits of her ruling being subject to appellate review. Same with Middlebrooks.
I take umbrage with the idea that Article III judges are somehow personally beholden to whomever appointed them and will rule in that person’s favor regardless of the merits.
That undermines the entire system and just simply isn’t accurate to anyone with any actual experience with federal courts.
I take umbrage with the idea that Article III judges are somehow personally beholden to whomever appointed them and will rule in that person’s favor regardless of the merits.
That undermines the entire system and just simply isn’t accurate to anyone with any actual experience with federal courts.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Thank you for proving the right wing point. You're doing a great job of showing how inept Democrats were, and how much of true believers you followers were.
Partisans closely follow political investigations and wish accountability on their non-partisans. News at 10. We've had Hung Horowitz, Hung Huber, Bull Durham, Mueller, Jack Smith, whoever's investigating Biden. It's part of the process.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:22 pm to TigerDoc
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Ultimately courts are accountable too, of course. In a well-working system, executives and legislatures push back on overweening courts. I don't think any of this is radical - it's Montesquieu and Madison sort of stuff.
You posted support for an attorney general and a special prosecutor framing a narrative against the President of the United States based upon an opposition paid complete fabrication.
That is a perverse view of the justice system. Though accurate, as I said. Your admission of support and glee in that perverse process is what amazes me.
This post was edited on 1/20/23 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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I take umbrage with the idea that Article III judges are somehow personally beholden to whomever appointed them and will rule in that person’s favor regardless of the merits. That undermines the entire system and just simply isn’t accurate to anyone with any actual experience with federal courts.
I agree with you 99 percent. However, when a ruling and the dicta is so clearly partisan, it should be called out.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:29 pm to BBONDS25
It's not glee, but I think the facts support that the way Barr managed the release of information in the case shaped the media narrative that in turn shaped the politics. He did the same thing in Iran-Contra, btw. I think it's possible to follow the letter of the law and do things like this that still play politics.
Note, though, that this isn't always done. The Atty General of the US under Nixon went after the Veep and took him down for taking bribes. He also handled the process of Special Prosecutor handing info over to Congress in a way that didn't shield Nixon like Barr did with Trump. I don't think it would've ultimately made a difference in terms of a removal if Barr had played it different because there are fewer cross-partisans in Congress now, but it would've made the politics a lot simpler of letting the public understand what Trump was long before they did.
Note, though, that this isn't always done. The Atty General of the US under Nixon went after the Veep and took him down for taking bribes. He also handled the process of Special Prosecutor handing info over to Congress in a way that didn't shield Nixon like Barr did with Trump. I don't think it would've ultimately made a difference in terms of a removal if Barr had played it different because there are fewer cross-partisans in Congress now, but it would've made the politics a lot simpler of letting the public understand what Trump was long before they did.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:30 pm to TigerDoc
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The "Russia Hoax" narrative was itself a political strategy advanced by Trump and allies in the media and the courts
You've legit lost your gdamned mind, son....
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:31 pm to TigerDoc
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The "Russia Hoax" narrative was itself a political strategy advanced by Trump and allies in the media and the courts
How in the frick do you tie your shoes?
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:32 pm to oogabooga68
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You've legit lost your gdamned mind, son....
Tigerdoc was the biggest believer on this board, he's embarrassed.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:34 pm to oogabooga68
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You've legit lost your gdamned mind, son....
Info vetted the courts will be used to write the history. Trump accused his opponents of a RICO case and a federal judge said his allegations were bogus and malicious.
History has the last word and you may be right. Historians will eventually get this info and will have a chance to say if Trump was wronged here, but that's long-run. This doesn't help Trump in '24.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:34 pm to TigerDoc
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And after it became legally non-viable, I stopped posting about it.
For anyone with a gdamnd brain who wasn't suffering from terminal TDS, that bullshite was "viable" for about ten seconds.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:36 pm to TigerDoc
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This doesn't help Trump in '24.
I don't care about Trump in '24.
I care about liars using legalese to try and mask their dishonesty and stupidity.
Only idiots and TDS retards fell for that shite, period.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:37 pm to oogabooga68
It's politically viable as long as the outcome is undetermined and the media is covering it as an unfolding mystery.
The special counsel investigations going against Trump and Biden current work this way too.
The special counsel investigations going against Trump and Biden current work this way too.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:37 pm to oogabooga68
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I don't care about Trump in '24.
I never voted for him, never liked him, but the Democrats drama was mind blowing and fricking embarrassing.
They cannot think independently.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:42 pm to TigerDoc
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and the media is covering it as an unfolding mystery.
So your opinions are formed by proven partisan liars?
Mmmkay...
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:43 pm to oogabooga68
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Only idiots and TDS retards fell for that shite, period.
But why is it dumb to fall for that shite?
If it's because it wasn't stamped with the legitimation of court rulings, then Russia Hoax narrative belief is a shite belief in a shite narrative too, right?
I agree with you that court rulings aren't definitive, but you'll have to wait for the slow drip-drip of history to be vindicated (if you are).
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:44 pm to oogabooga68
Everybody's opinions are shaped by media. But lots of time, people here don't treat RW media as media.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:50 pm to AggieHank86
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We know that Hunter CLAIMED to have paid this rent. Do we have any objective evidence that it was ACTUALLY either charged by Daddy OR paid by Hunter?
Trusting a representation by Hunter Biden is not real high on my list of "potential smart moves."
We also know, via texts and voicmails, hunter botched about giving daddy so much of the money he "earned", by payingfor- what? Repairs to the house among other things
Posted on 1/20/23 at 12:58 pm to TigerDoc
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If it's because it wasn't stamped with the legitimation of court rulings, then Russia Hoax narrative belief is a shite belief in a shite narrative too, right?
What? There is no equivalence. The Steele dossier was opposition paid fabrication. That makes it a hoax.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 1:04 pm to BBONDS25
You can allege it and in the court of public opinion that might hold up and you can make hay with it for politics. I'm sure Trump will.
But the Democratic narrative will be that it was paid opposition research given to DOJ in good faith in context of a legitimate crime (Russian hacking of DNC/DCCC).
These can be politically addressed with Seth Rich CT's, of course. It's not hopeless.
But the Democratic narrative will be that it was paid opposition research given to DOJ in good faith in context of a legitimate crime (Russian hacking of DNC/DCCC).
These can be politically addressed with Seth Rich CT's, of course. It's not hopeless.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 1:24 pm to TigerDoc
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You can allege it and in the court of public opinion
Wait. Are you saying you still believe the contents of the dossier?
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