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re: Pope (emeritus) Benedict has died

Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:38 pm to
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The Early Church Was The Catholic Church.
No way!

There is still only one church. You're in it. I'm in it. Foo is in it. Relevator is in it. And Stitches is in it.

As you know, catholic means universal, and we are all united by a universal, widely held belief in Jesus Christ.
Was there not disagreement and factions throughout the ages? Yes! Division is featured in every century of church history. But the disagreement is not enough to say that we hold different faiths and different baptisms (unless the pope says so apparently). Being I don't acknowledge popes, you and me, we're good!
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
914 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 9:31 pm to
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catholic means universal, and we are all united by a universal, widely held belief in Jesus Christ


The first known use of the word Catholic was in Igantius' letter to the Smyrnaeans in 110AD, and it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others. So from its earliest use, it was meant to convey a specific set of widely-held beliefs which are much more aligned with those of the RCC than Protestant denominations.

It was later used by Protestants in the way you're using it, which isn't supported historically.

ETA: that's not me saying that I believe Catholics will be the only people in Heaven from the New Covenant, as I dont believe that, nor does the RCC teach that. I was just trying to add context to what the term Catholic means in the historical sense of early Christian writings.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 9:36 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48629 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 10:53 pm to
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No way!


Yes way!

Proven by the historical record.

Have you read the book? No? Then you don't know what you're talking about.
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