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Luxury tax, salary cap, revenue sharing
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:44 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 2:44 am
Curious as to what people prefer, having a league with a luxury tax, salary cap, revenue sharing, or no limitations. What's more important, having a league balance with these implementations, or should leagues just do away with any kind of limits/sharing and let the larger markets throw around money left and right? Not like the luxury tax really stops teams in the MLB from throwing around money hence all the news with Steve Cohen.
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 5:18 am to potofgold12
Salary Cap, put an end to 4-5 teams dominating the league. NFL has it right and you see that with how Super Bowl champs and teams rotate a lot more. Take Brady out of that equation and the last QB to get two Super Bowl wins with one team I believe was Eli Manning.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:19 am to LSUJuicer
I like the way the NFL does it, especially with most contracts having only partially guaranteed money.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:27 am to LSUJuicer
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NFL has it right and you see that with how Super Bowl champs and teams rotate a lot more.
I’m not really arguing for either system, but over the past ten years, eight different teams have won the World Series, same exact as the Super Bowl.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:30 am to potofgold12
Having a system of relegation and promotion would be nice as well for our pro leagues.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:33 am to The Seaward
Speaking from the MLB side, all the teams that have won in the past 10 years are large market teams that could not care less about the luxury tax and eat their tax with hopes for it being their year. I guess it creates parity amongst those top-ball clubs but is still ultimately a little lob sided. Then again, maybe that's not a bad thing for the sake of bringing in revenue for the league
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 7:56 am to potofgold12
The Royals definitely weren’t a large market team. The Rays have not won the WS, but they have come really close. I wouldn’t the Astros and the Braves massive spenders either, both are just really well run.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:14 am to The Seaward
Fair points, the Royals definitely aren't however, in 2015 they had a higher payroll than most years and the Astros are consistently a top 8 team in payroll and ya the Braves are pretty middle of the pack if not a little above
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:19 am to potofgold12
The problem with the smaller market teams isn't the size of the market. It's owners that won't spend money. The curtain has been pulled back to reveal just how much these teams make, between revenue sharing, TV contracts, etc. I'm not proposing that the A's can spend like the Mets, but they can surely bring in and more importantly keep good players. Couple that with a well run organization and any team can compete.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:28 am to potofgold12
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luxury tax, salary cap, revenue sharing, or no limitations
the salary cap and luxury taxes are not for competitive balance. They are there to protect owners from themselves
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:33 am to Dale Murphy
I agree to an extent, I do think it's the owners and their greed because they'll sacrifice team performance for profitability 100%. At the end of the day, it's a business for them and if going after big-time players seeking big-time contracts doesn't seem profitable even though it makes them more competitive they won't do it, which is where I think they begin to lose that ability to really compete for the World Series
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:35 am to Dire Wolf
Respectfully, I think Steve Cohen would beg to differ and call the luxury tax a hinderance
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:41 am to potofgold12
I don’t like the no cap super team way of, say, the English Premier League or other top European soccer leagues. It makes the domestic season boring in my opinion. I guess it’s okay (and some what necessary to compete) for the broader multi-nation Champions League and competitions like that.
PSG just dominates spending and has won Ligue 1 eight out of last ten years, most of the time clinching with several matches left in the season.
La Liga most years feels like Barcelona v Real Madrid with the other teams just playing for 3rd place.
EPL is a little better but still feels like 4-5 big clubs playing in a whole different world than the rest of the league.
In European soccer the top domestic leagues are never going to a cap because then their teams will be at a disadvantage in the multi-national competitions like Champions League. Man City isn’t going to agree to a EPL cap if PSG and Real Madrid aren’t capped in their leagues.
For the US where the domestic competition is everything I like some sort of salary cap but using baseball as an example it seems like if you are going to cap/tax the big spenders you should probably have some sort of minimum spending requirement for the cheap teams/owners particularly with revenue sharing going on.
PSG just dominates spending and has won Ligue 1 eight out of last ten years, most of the time clinching with several matches left in the season.
La Liga most years feels like Barcelona v Real Madrid with the other teams just playing for 3rd place.
EPL is a little better but still feels like 4-5 big clubs playing in a whole different world than the rest of the league.
In European soccer the top domestic leagues are never going to a cap because then their teams will be at a disadvantage in the multi-national competitions like Champions League. Man City isn’t going to agree to a EPL cap if PSG and Real Madrid aren’t capped in their leagues.
For the US where the domestic competition is everything I like some sort of salary cap but using baseball as an example it seems like if you are going to cap/tax the big spenders you should probably have some sort of minimum spending requirement for the cheap teams/owners particularly with revenue sharing going on.
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:44 am to potofgold12
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Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:49 am to potofgold12
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Respectfully, I think Steve Cohen would beg to differ and call the luxury tax a hinderance
seems to be more of a minor annoyance for him.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 8:59 am to LSUJuicer
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Salary Cap, put an end to 4-5 teams dominating the league. NFL has it right and you see that with how Super Bowl champs and teams rotate a lot more. Take Brady out of that equation and the last QB to get two Super Bowl wins with one team I believe was Eli Manning.
The NFL doesn't just have it right, they have it near-perfect. If they could just fix officiating the NFL would be a perfect professional sports product.
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/14/22 at 9:08 am to msutiger
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I’d love the idea of a salary cap and a salary floor.
I think the salary floor is one of the more underrated aspects that the NFL instituted. I don't recall the exact requirements, but it forced teams to have their cap above a certain threshold and spend a certain amount of cash each year.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:50 pm to potofgold12
No limitations. 
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:50 pm to Rand AlThor
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The NFL doesn't just have it right, they have it near-perfect. If they could just fix officiating the NFL would be a perfect professional sports product.
Nah, football is the worst sport to have a hard cap.
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:56 pm to potofgold12
NBA style soft cap is easily the best compromise
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