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Why Ukraine can NOT win this war

Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:43 pm
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:43 pm
European Parliament member, Clare Daly MEP, Ireland is one fiery lassie.

LINK ]She says Ukraine war is a scam

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The billions of EU assistance going to Ukraine are not free. They are loans, Loans which Ukraine will default on and they come with neo-liberal strings attached if you
listen to the economists Ukraine is marked for a nightmare round of shock therapy a sell-off for public land deregulation of Labor sale of public assets on it goes the country's future is being sold to finance a proxy war that's tearing it apart and of course the loans have preconditions that Ukraine must uphold democracy and rule of law but since the tap was turned on Zelenski has banned most opposition parties shuttered the media attacked trade unions and workers' rights but the billions keep flowing this is a country our court of Auditors have said was a contrary accused of grand corruption and on it goes while the EU policy seems designed to prevent peace and keep the war going at all costs as long as Ordinary People pay.

So between Russian tanks and European Banks

there will be little left of Ukraine when this is over don't forget war is a racket and there's going to be hell to pay for this


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Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:45 pm to
Cuz it’s Russia and they’ve done nothing w 100 billion dollars
Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7210 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:46 pm to
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War is a Racket, and there's going to be Hell to pay for this one


Yep and no one has talked about peace talks. Why? We know why and so does She.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20735 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:48 pm to
No shite.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:48 pm to
I’m waiting for sta4ever to volunteer to go fight for Ukraine and the cross-dressing President
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22339 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:57 pm to
Yeah, Ireland? No.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41685 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 1:57 pm to
Daly is a hard core lefty, a Russian proponent, but you guys will believe everything she is says because she sounds like many of ya’ll do.

This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38562 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:00 pm to
A lot of Ukrainians prefer Russian culture to the Woke version. There is a helluva difference, especially Religion wise. Same here.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20735 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:01 pm to
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ya’ll


Posted by Chazreinhold
Utah
Member since Oct 2020
7210 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

Daly is a hard core lefty, a Russian proponent, but you guys will believe everything she is says because she sounds like many of ya’ll do.


What is wrong with what she stated?
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6352 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:05 pm to
I guess Putin is tired of winning here?

Outside the angry moms. oligarchs, and .....losing on the battlefield

No Ukraine has lost a lot during this invasion but
unlike the Putin apologists not their souls
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9006 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Ireland is one fiery lassie


She also lauded Syrian and Venezuelan elections. She is what lefties on the internet call a tankie. Meaning even hard core socialist think she is nuts.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94680 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:11 pm to
Daly is a weird bird. Hard lefty (all in on abortion - strange for woman in a family full of Catholic priests), almost certainly a Marxist, economically. Definitely soft on terrorism and probably on the Russian payroll.

Having said all of that, she isn't wrong in this speech.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:12 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41685 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

What is wrong with what she stated?

Nothing, it’s her opinion. It’s her right to say it.
Now that doesn’t mean she’s correct.

She was wrong when she said Russia wouldn’t invade Ukraine for instance.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:12 pm to
Okay. Now tell her to do Russia.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41685 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Daly is a weird bird. Hard lefty (all in on abortion - strange for woman in a family full of Catholic priests), almost certainly a Marxist, economically. Definitely soft on terrorism and probably on the Russian payroll.
Having said all of that, she isn't wrong in this speech.


Her speech mimics a lot of what the pro Russian guys here have been saying don’t you think?

I wonder if someone is broadcasting talking points for Russia?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9006 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

I wonder if someone is broadcasting talking points for Russia?


Folks like her have a hard on/ get wet for authoritarians that have a socialist veneer.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9006 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Having said all of that, she isn't wrong in this speech.


Its a lot of speculation.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7652 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:31 pm to
WTH? Must I make this easier for some you Putin non-apology deniers? (Simpler than that).

All the money they are giving to Ukraine, through the EU is NOT FREE. They have to pay it all back, with interest. It is very, VERY likely that Ukraine will default on these loans and the banks will take their stuff as collateral, such as public lands, properties and other assets.

De be lusin dey stuff

The country's future is being sold to finance a proxy war that's tearing it apart!

So, between Russian tanks and European Banks Dey screwed.

There will not be much stuff in Ukraine that Ukraine owns when this is all over.

War is a racket and there's going to be hell to pay for this one.

ETA; If by some miracle they don't lose to Russia, they will have won nothing. The banks will have it all.
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:38 pm
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 12/8/22 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Daly is a hard core lefty, a Russian proponent, but you guys will believe everything she is says because she sounds like many of ya’ll do.

yes, there is an underlying truth to truthfulness, regardless of who speaks it

What will be seen forever among this forum is the numbskulled dishonesty and stupidity of the pom pom waving Ukraine war mongers.

Not the first lick of sense; not a shred of decency or pertinent knowledge.... O-T stupidity. Bold, unwavering numb skulled stupidity

the perfect fodder of propagandists

doubleb up for clueless moron of the week
This post was edited on 12/8/22 at 2:33 pm
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