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SCOTUS hearing Moore v. Harper arguments today. This is a big deal.

Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:49 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:49 am
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The issue: The case concerns the elections clause in Article I, section 4 of the Constitution and whether state legislatures alone are empowered by the Constitution to regulate federal elections without oversight from state courts. Click here to learn more about the case's background.
The questions presented: "Whether a State's judicial branch may nullify the regulations governing the "Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives . . . prescribed . . . by the Legislature thereof," U.S. CONST. art. I, § 4, cl. 1, and replace them with regulations of the state courts' own devising, based on vague state constitutional provisions purportedly vesting the state judiciary with power to prescribe whatever rules it deems appropriate to ensure a "fair" or "free" election."[1]
The outcome: The appeal is pending adjudication before the U.S. Supreme Court.

Why it matters: If the court rules in favor of the petitioners, the power and authority to regulate federal elections would become more concentrated in state legislatures and with the federal judiciary in the event of appellate review. When the case was granted, Republicans controlled 54.10% of all state legislative seats nationally, while Democrats held 44.32%. Republicans held a majority in 62 chambers, and Democrats held the majority in 36 chambers. One chamber (Alaska House) was organized under a multipartisan, power-sharing coalition.[2]


https://ballotpedia.org/Moore_v._Harper
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:52 am to
Don't know how to feel about this. I don't want more power in the hands of federal courts, but these last minute power grabs to completely rewrite election laws by state-level judges have destroyed our country. Something clearly needs to be done about it.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 9:53 am
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70181 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 9:56 am to
LINK

Good article
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20630 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:20 am to
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Don't know how to feel about this.

It’s a double edged sword.

Power has to remain at the state level IMO because the consequences the other way are potentially too catastrophic to open the door to.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:37 am to
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Power has to remain at the state level IMO because the consequences the other way are potentially too catastrophic to open the door to.


Agreed but the level of corruption at the state level is producing one party states which will break laws freely to keep power. Democracy only works when everyone agrees on fair and honest elections. When one side is totalitarian, democracy no longer works. Some solution must be found.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62774 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 10:43 am to
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Power has to remain at the state level IMO because the consequences the other way are potentially too catastrophic to open the door to.



I mean...I agree, but to me "at the state level" means "with state legislatures," not "with whatever rogue district court judge decides she knows what's best for the country."

I'm just not sure I think it belongs with federal courts either. The power clearly lies with the state legislatures and they should be able to make these rules as they see fit.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:22 am to
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Why it matters: If the court rules in favor of the petitioners, the power and authority to regulate federal elections would become more concentrated in state legislatures and with the federal judiciary in the event of appellate review.


So someone sues the State of La for requiring an ID to vote in the election for local dog-catcher, saying requiring an ID is racist (create the details of the scenario how you wish). Does that mean it would then bypass state courts and go directly to federal courts?
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48130 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Power has to remain at the state level

Positively - we have seen what happens when people in DC and federal courts get to define how we live our private lives and exercise our God-given freedoms.

At least scoundrels a the state level are easier to get rid of - we shouldn't have to convince Los Angeles, et al voters to allow us get rid of a crooked Lafayette mayor. We have enough trouble with New Orleans.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25198 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:11 pm to
The dems on the PA state SC, completely change the PA state legislature's voting laws eliminating the timeframe, signature checking on mail-ins, and overriding the rules for absentee voting completely.

The result was open season for fraud.
Posted by stormchaser_64
Member since Jun 2020
87 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:12 pm to
“The United States Supreme Court will be hearing a major case on election integrity that promises to strip away the ability of states to rig elections via the courts or executive decrees.” This conveniently leaves out the fact that it would enshrine the capability to rig elections solely in the state legislatures. Zero balance of power. Completely idiotic argument.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:13 pm to
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I mean...I agree, but to me "at the state level" means "with state legislatures," not "with whatever rogue district court judge decides she knows what's best for the country."


This....

Why even have a Legislature if some black-robed Tyrant is going to arbitrarily change laws to suit their Political bias.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:18 pm to
You bet it is a BFD.

Eric Holder & Obama probably have a special control room set up at DOJ NSD to blackmail Roberts all the way with.

Holder went on meet the press talking about this-as well as jailing Trump. I think they are assured a win.
Posted by TeaParty
Member since May 2022
935 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:18 pm to
What matters is that the current elections were changed not by the legislator due to covid and now we have these questionable election results and NOTHING is happening in the Judicial system to make it right
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:05 pm to
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/moore-v-harper-2/

no wonder Eric Holder babbled about this. the democrats want one party rule.

what does Kev think about this? does he care?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:10 pm to
calling all lawyers. here is the oral argument on this today

auto play when you click below turn up your sound

Oral Argument - Audio Moore v. Harper Docket Number: 21-1271 Date Argued: 12/07/22

The opening guys voice cracks a lot, it is bizarre. Right out the gate, Justice Thomas questions why State Law should be there at SCOTUS
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:14 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 4:19 pm to
Mike Lewis Democrats Plan To Remove State Legislatures’ Election Responsibilities

What will they do when republicans don't rule States legislatures? They are TRYING to change things to make Biden a King one party rule.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162915 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 5:44 pm to
I think that the new Justice gets notes from Eric Holder and reads them. Sotomayor is not very bright.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:36 pm to
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Something clearly needs to be done about it.





but this probably isn't it.
ill be surprised if north Carolina wins using this Eastman idea.
you never know. people will get more interested in state offices.
the Koch brothers bankrolled the R takeover of the states. they won.

when I worked in San Mateo I read that the CA state senator spent over a million on his campaign.
that's ordinary now.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:05 pm
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39755 posts
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:46 pm to
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video explaining this better.


He's the reason I started this thread.

This is some real sneaky shite.
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