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Ole Miss - October Surprise???
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:11 am
I know it wasn't intentional, but how much of an advantage does uncorking an actual passing game just before the Ole Miss showdown give LSU?
Prior to that, there was no tape of any such thing for them to evaluate. The general consensus after six games was:
- They can't complete passes of more than 10 yards
- Their best running back is their QB
- Their QB has no downfield vision past his first read
- Their OL can't keep the pocket clean
- Their QB panics and scrambles a LOT
... it goes on and on, but you get the gist. And now, all of it is rubbish.
One game does not a season make, but one game CAN change a season, if the Florida game truly is a turning point for our offense.
So, back to my question. How much of an advantage does it give us that Ole Miss saw a completely different team last Saturday than the one they expected to play against this weekend?
Prior to that, there was no tape of any such thing for them to evaluate. The general consensus after six games was:
- They can't complete passes of more than 10 yards
- Their best running back is their QB
- Their QB has no downfield vision past his first read
- Their OL can't keep the pocket clean
- Their QB panics and scrambles a LOT
... it goes on and on, but you get the gist. And now, all of it is rubbish.
One game does not a season make, but one game CAN change a season, if the Florida game truly is a turning point for our offense.
So, back to my question. How much of an advantage does it give us that Ole Miss saw a completely different team last Saturday than the one they expected to play against this weekend?
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:21 am to Dotarian
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Their OL can't keep the pocket clean
This has been a false narrative pretty much all season. We suck at run blocking and I'm not 100% sure we are much better at that today than we have been, but we certainly ran it better for whatever reason against UF.
Our pockets have been pretty clean a lot of the time all year. The problem is that the other issues you mention with our QB has overshadowed a lot of people noticing that.
I'm extremely encouraged about what we saw out of Daniels against UF...I just hope he can continue that good work.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:32 am to Dotarian
Ole Miss didn't really see a "whole different team" last week. Many of the same issues that have been present all season were present once more, horrible special teams, slow start for the defense. What they saw was a different QB. One that wasn't as hesitant to sit in the pocket and actually throw the ball as he's been before.
Daniels was still hesitant to some degree. There were multiple times where he double-clutched before letting the ball go (most notably on the TD pass to Thomas). But at least he was letting it go. His WRs made tough catches. Hopefully that leads to even less hesitancy this week.
Daniels was still hesitant to some degree. There were multiple times where he double-clutched before letting the ball go (most notably on the TD pass to Thomas). But at least he was letting it go. His WRs made tough catches. Hopefully that leads to even less hesitancy this week.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:35 am to Dotarian
The O-line has been unjustly maligned.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:35 am to Dotarian
They have to do film study on 2 vastly different teams. Like, night and day different.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:52 am to LSU316
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The problem is that the other issues you mention with our QB has overshadowed a lot of people noticing that.
FWIW, I should have clarified that those are the things that most non-LSU people are (were?) saying about our team.
Quite a few LSU fans were saying some of those things as well, but I agree with you - anyone that actually watched the previous games knew that the OL has held up pretty well (except for against Tennessee, when we were missing the entire left side).
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:55 am to Dotarian
I think it can’t be overstated how much Campbell and Dellinger being out for Tennessee ducked up.
Bradford had rough moments playing RG last week and the as thrown in at LT.
Bradford had rough moments playing RG last week and the as thrown in at LT.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:03 pm to Dotarian
Coaches are not scouting failed tendency’s like, QB not throwing or Revievers dropping passes. Is it something to mention yeah, but they’re not watching film to say he doesn’t throw well. That doesn’t help a defense prepare. So saying they only have 1 game to scout out passing attack is not accurate. While it’s the best performance to look at, it’s not like those were brand new plays. They were just executed correctly.
Coaches scout schemes not results.
Route concepts not just results of the plays.
Coaches scout schemes not results.
Route concepts not just results of the plays.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:43 pm to MichaelTTiger21
I don't disagree, but at the same time I believe that - before the Florida game - the coaching staff had simplified a lot of what they were asking JD to do, trying to get him more comfortable.
After getting mudstomped by the Vols, they went "eff it, throw the damn ball and let the chips fall". Kelly even said as much, and reports from practices the week prior to the Florida game supported that idea.
So, like I said, I don't disagree with you, but at the same time if JD hadn't flipped the switch in the Florida game then we're having a much different conversation now. And that would be true even if we'd won with JD still making one read then running.
After getting mudstomped by the Vols, they went "eff it, throw the damn ball and let the chips fall". Kelly even said as much, and reports from practices the week prior to the Florida game supported that idea.
So, like I said, I don't disagree with you, but at the same time if JD hadn't flipped the switch in the Florida game then we're having a much different conversation now. And that would be true even if we'd won with JD still making one read then running.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:46 pm to MichaelTTiger21
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Coaches are not scouting failed tendency’s like, QB not throwing or Revievers dropping passes.
Also, just curious (not combative): Why do you say this?
If I was an LSU opponent, and the Florida game had gone like every other LSU game, why wouldn't I bet big on the fact that LSU could rarely hit anything beyond 10 yards, and that the QB was more likely to run like a scared jackrabbit than be patient if his first read was covered?
Those are tendencies I would try to exploit. Then again, I'm not a coach, but wouldn't that be logical? If they can't do something, then hammer the deficiency until they prove otherwise - right?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:30 pm to 4evrlsu
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They have to do film study on 2 vastly different teams. Like, night and day different.
Do they really though? I would think they need to focus on the team that showed up last week against UF. If we are the team that showed up against Auburn or Tennessee, they will not have to worry about much.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:38 pm to Dotarian
Definitely can’t hurt baw! Lane is an excellent analyst and game prepper. There is no doubt that Florida game is going to give him much more stress this week than he initially anticipated.
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